Doubts on caliber choice. - Page 2

HotGuns · July 26th, 2009, 10:17 PM

Any handgun is a compromise, that is why armys use rifles.

With that being said, the .357 Sig will kill just as well as any other major caliber.

When people shoot to stop a threat, it almost always involves more than one shot anyway.

While you may consider the .357 Sig to be weak, I know of no one else that does. It may be alot of things, but weak aint one of them.

keboostman · July 26th, 2009, 10:36 PM

Pick a handgun and a cartridge--9mm, 357 Sig, 357 magnum, 38 special, 40 S&W, 44 Special, 45 ACP, etc --learn to shoot it well under pressure, make sure your firearm is reliable and don't look back.

Everyone has a favorite caliber but they are all distinctions without a difference in my opinion. Once you are proficient and have a firearm that works every time all the time you will be good to go.

InspectorGadget · July 26th, 2009, 10:51 PM

I have recently been thinking about the .40sw's ancestor the 10mm, in a newer 1911(Colt Delta Elite) platform it has penetration(possibly over) with a platform I know. The overpower issues with the slide seem to be worked out with the new series.

chiefrcd · July 26th, 2009, 11:06 PM

Everyone should take a moment to read this:

Terminal ballistics as viewed in a morgue

Czampion · July 27th, 2009, 12:44 AM

.357 Sig is a great choice for a number of reasons. While I don't own a gun chambered for it, the case for using the round is good. Excellent penetration with some fear of overpenetration but hey -the rule is know your target and what lies beyond. The tapered cartridge allows for much more reliable chambering, even in mucky conditions. The noise would be horrific in enclosed spaces like the home but if you save your life and those of the ones you love you've done well despite permanent hearing loss or tinitis. You can bank on a round like this, skillfully placed, stopping an attacker. Don't be too worried about your choice in rounds. Feed reliability trumps .40 S&W, power trumps 9mm and velocity will allow you to accomplish more than the heavier, wider .45ACP against targets in vehicles and the like.

You done good. Don't fret.

InspectorGadget · July 27th, 2009, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefrcd

Everyone should take a moment to read this:

Terminal ballistics as viewed in a morgue

Excellent

,

This is a guy in the morgues view of the different calibers, and lots of really good add on information on the side. I am half way through this and stopping for a quick break. Instead of GEL tests, he sees the Damage done by the different calibers every day, and explains the damage he has to analyze.

sniper58 · July 27th, 2009, 01:18 AM

As stated, solid hits beat caliber size. I like .45 ACP for a lot of reasons. I sold my .40 to get another .45. I want more capacity and almost bought either a double-stack Para or a Witness (both in .45 ACP). The former is just too thick for my hands and style of shooting. The latter is a little thinner (marginally) and offers 10+1 capacity. I already have 8+1 and a boat load of magazines so where is the true upgrade?

Shoot what fits and shoot what you shoot well under all conditions. If you second guess yourself, you'll be chasing your wallet for the rest of your life and you might just compromise speed and accuracy.

jca1 · July 27th, 2009, 01:23 AM

some of my friends deer hunt with .300 mags cause they think it's better...I killdeer all day with a 6mm, one shot drops...its the shot that counts not the bullet size. That said, I still like a .45 but I carry a .38 or .357

RevDerb · July 27th, 2009, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbrenke

options, more options, then even more options.

my personal biased opinion.
.45 is nice but I like more rounds.
9mm has the rounds, but I like more size.
.40 is a compramise of both.
My XDSC it is about right, but I have been eyeing the XDm in .40 because of mag capacity.

so in short, here I go again. just going to have to add another to the stable....
I hate it when that happens.

pick what YOU like. I do not care what it is.

Thank you, Goldilocks!

TerriLi · July 27th, 2009, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InspectorGadget

Excellent

,

This is a guy in the morgues view of the different calibers, and lots of really good add on information on the side. I am half way through this and stopping for a quick break. Instead of GEL tests, he sees the Damage done by the different calibers every day, and explains the damage he has to analyze.

Thanks for the interesting read. Some good info I think in that one.

July 26th, 2009, 10:17 PM	#11
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,621	Any handgun is a compromise, that is why armys use rifles. With that being said, the .357 Sig will kill just as well as any other major caliber. When people shoot to stop a threat, it almost always involves more than one shot anyway. While you may consider the .357 Sig to be weak, I know of no one else that does. It may be alot of things, but weak aint one of them. __________________ AR. CHL Instr. To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson

July 26th, 2009, 10:51 PM	#13
InspectorGadget Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: PENSACOLA, FL Posts: 513	I have recently been thinking about the .40sw's ancestor the 10mm, in a newer 1911(Colt Delta Elite) platform it has penetration(possibly over) with a platform I know. The overpower issues with the slide seem to be worked out with the new series. __________________ Colt 1911 New Agent, CTLaser You do not work for them, they work for you. Senators http://senate.gov/general/contact_in...nators_cfm.cfm Congressmen http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml

July 26th, 2009, 11:06 PM	#14
chiefrcd Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 130	Everyone should take a moment to read this: Terminal ballistics as viewed in a morgue __________________ Have Gun ~ Will Carry S-Safety M-Motivation A-Awareness R-Responsibility T-Training

July 27th, 2009, 01:18 AM	#17
sniper58 Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,248	As stated, solid hits beat caliber size. I like .45 ACP for a lot of reasons. I sold my .40 to get another .45. I want more capacity and almost bought either a double-stack Para or a Witness (both in .45 ACP). The former is just too thick for my hands and style of shooting. The latter is a little thinner (marginally) and offers 10+1 capacity. I already have 8+1 and a boat load of magazines so where is the true upgrade? Shoot what fits and shoot what you shoot well under all conditions. If you second guess yourself, you'll be chasing your wallet for the rest of your life and you might just compromise speed and accuracy. __________________ Tim BE PREPARED - Noah didn't build the Ark when it was raining! The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson ________ NRA Life Member

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July 26th, 2009, 10:36 PM	#12
keboostman Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairfax Station Virginia Posts: 76	Pick a handgun and a cartridge--9mm, 357 Sig, 357 magnum, 38 special, 40 S&W, 44 Special, 45 ACP, etc --learn to shoot it well under pressure, make sure your firearm is reliable and don't look back. Everyone has a favorite caliber but they are all distinctions without a difference in my opinion. Once you are proficient and have a firearm that works every time all the time you will be good to go.

July 27th, 2009, 12:44 AM	#15
Czampion Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 106	.357 Sig is a great choice for a number of reasons. While I don't own a gun chambered for it, the case for using the round is good. Excellent penetration with some fear of overpenetration but hey -the rule is know your target and what lies beyond. The tapered cartridge allows for much more reliable chambering, even in mucky conditions. The noise would be horrific in enclosed spaces like the home but if you save your life and those of the ones you love you've done well despite permanent hearing loss or tinitis. You can bank on a round like this, skillfully placed, stopping an attacker. Don't be too worried about your choice in rounds. Feed reliability trumps .40 S&W, power trumps 9mm and velocity will allow you to accomplish more than the heavier, wider .45ACP against targets in vehicles and the like. You done good. Don't fret.

July 27th, 2009, 01:23 AM	#18
jca1 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NC Posts: 274	some of my friends deer hunt with .300 mags cause they think it's better...I killdeer all day with a 6mm, one shot drops...its the shot that counts not the bullet size. That said, I still like a .45 but I carry a .38 or .357