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Old August 1st, 2009, 12:34 AM   #11
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I use shorts in a rifle - you can't hear the discharge, just the zip of the bullet going down range.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 09:32 AM   #12
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RWS subsonic is pretty quite, but probably louder than CB caps. They have cycled everything I have tried them in.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 09:43 AM   #13
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The quietest I have seen were BB caps--even less noise than the CB caps. Less power too.

You might want to check your local ordnances, but here in my county you can shoot on your own property, as long as you live outside the city.
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John. Money is a bit tight right now but otherwise the pellet gun would be a great idea.

John I hear You. I got the gamo, sometimes they go on sale at Cabela's. There is a lot of other types out there as well.
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Old August 1st, 2009, 12:53 PM   #15
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I have heard of the Aquila .22s. What's the "CB" round like? I have never heard of these.
The CB is french for something, I don't remember what. It's a .22 short case with a VERY small power charge. In a rifle, the report is like a loud hand-clap. They work best in revolvers and bolt actions. They will NOT cycle an autoloader action.
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the Aguila piston fire is as quiet as you get and they aren't too bad for accuracy out of a Buckmark actually and no they won't cycle the action
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CB stands for "conical breech" cap.

If you shoot more than a few of these, give your chamber a good brushing to prevent a ring of debris from forming in the part of the chamber normally occupied by a standard-length case.
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The Aguila Colibri don't have the energy for pest control at 25 yards from a handgun. CB shorts or longs are the way to go. At least around here Wal Mart has them in stock, best luck in your area. The Aguila SSS probably won't stabilize in you pistol and aren't that much quieter than a regular load. For sure not hearing-safe.

I know money is tight, but my rule is kind of like if I have an extra $200 bucks I'd rather spend it on the tax for a suppressor than a fancy air gun. But that's just me and my new plan to suppress every gun I own because it's so much fun.

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60 grain .22lr subsonic. They are monster bullets, but are fairly quiet...

Cabela's -- Aguila .22 LR Sniper Subsonic 60-gr. Ammunition with Dry Box - Per 500.

not cheap...
Hmm... From what I remember hearing(when purchasing my can) and reading one shouldn't be using Aguila's in suppressed weapons. And you'll even find them specifically mentioned in Gemtech's manuals as ammo to avoid. It seems they have a tendency to wobble about as they're entering the suppressors and cause damage to the baffles over time.
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Anyone shot Aguila 60 gr. SSS with a can? - TheFiringLine Forums

...and straight from the manual in my Gemtech Outback II. They even bolded this part in the manual:
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The Aguilla SSS 60 gr. subsonic ammunition does not always stabilize in the barrel twists readily available and can yaw badly on exit from the rifling. This will seriously damage the internal components of your suppressor, and use of this ammunition is at the users's risk and will void the warranty.
Stick with the CCI CB Longs. A bit expensive, but they've work great for me. The first shot seems to be a bit louder(like a high fps bb gun), but after that, it's EXTREMELY quiet. I suspect that first shot being louder and the rest quiet has something to do with either the temperature or the gases from the first shot filling up the empty space and working as it's own dampening material, but I could be wrong. From the second shot on, the loudest report is the bullet hitting the intended target. I doubt it will cycle the semi-auto though. Doesn't cycle in my walther. I have to rack the slide for each shot.

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I have taken squirrels at 15yrds+ with my P22(WHICH IS A REALLY SHORT BARREL) using the CCI CB Longs and cranial shots at that. They do have the oomph to get the job done.
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Aguila Super Colibri

Aguila Super Colibri fits your needs best.

They are the quietest round out there. Not as quiet out of a handgun as out of a rifle, but quieter than anything else. Less noise than a firecracker out of my Charter .22. Out of my NEF Sportster, the only noise is the firing pin hitting the rim and the bullet hitting the target. Virtually no report.

And they're cheap, too.

I can tell you HOW I know (by testing) but I will not WHY I know ;)
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