Range Asked Me to Leave My Wolf Ammo at the Counter

skot · October 5th, 2009, 07:23 PM

So I went to a range that I've been to many times before this weekend, but this time something strange happened.

Before I went in the range master asked if he could check my ammo. He said they had too many people bringing in Wolf and something else that I didn't hear. I told him no problem, knowing I was only shooting Federal and Blazer Brass, and I opened my bag. As he was looking through it I realized that I did have two boxes of Wolf 9mm in there. I pointed them out to him and told him I wasn't going to shoot them. He politely asked if I would leave them at the counter and I did.

On my way out I stopped to pick them up and asked the kid at the counter (one of the other employee's sons who is still in high school) why they didn't allow it on the range. He told me that there is a lot of unburnt powder on the ground and Wolf ammo has a steel core that could spark and start a fire. I just kind of said ok and went on my way.

Now I've been thinking about this and that sounds like total B.S. Wolf has a steel case, but not a steel core. If it did then wouldn't it be armor piercing? And there can't be that much unburnt powder on the ground can there? I know they sweep regularly because they do USPSA shoots there once a week and have to pick up the brass.

So why do you think they are making people leave the Wolf at the counter? I'm guessing it might be because they don't want to separate the non reloadable stuff from the reloadable stuff.

This is an indoor range, but not a lead free or "green" range.

Rock and Glock · October 5th, 2009, 07:28 PM

I call BS. They may not like the air fouling caused by the ammo, but their "Fire" excuse is flat dumb. Just my .02.

walvord · October 5th, 2009, 07:29 PM

Seems like everyone is a control freak these days. I'd find another range.

Cuda66 · October 5th, 2009, 07:44 PM

It's because the range is selling the used brass to be reloaded.

And while steel cased, berdan primed ammo can be reloaded, it's difficult, and if you have some mixed in with brass/boxer ammo, it's a pain in the keister for the commercial reloader buying the brass.

It has nothing to do with powder, jacket etc...it's all economics.

hogdaddy · October 5th, 2009, 07:52 PM

You don't save your brass??

tmizzi · October 5th, 2009, 07:55 PM

Funny. The indoor range I visit on a weekly basis just started pulling this exact same crap in the past few weeks. No "Russian Made" Wolf or Bear. Same BS excuse provided.

skot · October 5th, 2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuda66

It's because the range is selling the used brass to be reloaded.

And while steel cased, berdan primed ammo can be reloaded, it's difficult, and if you have some mixed in with brass/boxer ammo, it's a pain in the keister for the commercial reloader buying the brass.

It has nothing to do with powder, jacket etc...it's all economics.

That's pretty much what I thought. They sell reloaded BVAC stuff as range ammo. I'd imagine they get crap if they send back a bunch of brass with steel mixed in.

I should start saving my brass. I used to, but never invested in the reloading stuff so I've kind of stopped. Maybe someday.

PaulaMoreno · October 5th, 2009, 08:09 PM

they make ppl do the same thing at our range. if they thing u have wolf they will ask you to leave it at the counter. i dont like that.

EW3 · October 5th, 2009, 08:13 PM

My range has a large sign on the door before you go in that says: "NO ALUMINUM OR STEEL CASED AMMO PERMITTED". They told me it was due to having to sort out the steel from the brass. Oh well, their range, their rules.

PaulaMoreno · October 5th, 2009, 08:15 PM

yeah thats what they told me!

October 5th, 2009, 07:23 PM	#1
skot Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 147	Range Asked Me to Leave My Wolf Ammo at the Counter So I went to a range that I've been to many times before this weekend, but this time something strange happened. Before I went in the range master asked if he could check my ammo. He said they had too many people bringing in Wolf and something else that I didn't hear. I told him no problem, knowing I was only shooting Federal and Blazer Brass, and I opened my bag. As he was looking through it I realized that I did have two boxes of Wolf 9mm in there. I pointed them out to him and told him I wasn't going to shoot them. He politely asked if I would leave them at the counter and I did. On my way out I stopped to pick them up and asked the kid at the counter (one of the other employee's sons who is still in high school) why they didn't allow it on the range. He told me that there is a lot of unburnt powder on the ground and Wolf ammo has a steel core that could spark and start a fire. I just kind of said ok and went on my way. Now I've been thinking about this and that sounds like total B.S. Wolf has a steel case, but not a steel core. If it did then wouldn't it be armor piercing? And there can't be that much unburnt powder on the ground can there? I know they sweep regularly because they do USPSA shoots there once a week and have to pick up the brass. So why do you think they are making people leave the Wolf at the counter? I'm guessing it might be because they don't want to separate the non reloadable stuff from the reloadable stuff. This is an indoor range, but not a lead free or "green" range.

October 5th, 2009, 07:28 PM	#2
Rock and Glock VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado at 9,500' Posts: 4,443	I call BS. They may not like the air fouling caused by the ammo, but their "Fire" excuse is flat dumb. Just my .02. __________________ Richard NRA Life Member *"Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything."* Harry S. Truman

October 5th, 2009, 07:29 PM	#3
walvord Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: St. Charles County Missouri Posts: 971	Seems like everyone is a control freak these days. I'd find another range. __________________ "That government is best which governs least." — HENRY DAVID THOREAU Life Member NRA Member GOA \| CCRKBA \| SAF \| ARRL U.S. Army 1975-80

October 5th, 2009, 07:44 PM	#4
Cuda66 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: minnesota Posts: 486	It's because the range is selling the used brass to be reloaded. And while steel cased, berdan primed ammo can be reloaded, it's difficult, and if you have some mixed in with brass/boxer ammo, it's a pain in the keister for the commercial reloader buying the brass. It has nothing to do with powder, jacket etc...it's all economics. __________________ One man's theology is another man's belly laugh. --RAH

October 5th, 2009, 07:52 PM	#5
hogdaddy Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N/E Florida Posts: 1,232	You don't save your brass?? __________________ WE SAY GRACE & WE SAY MAM IF YA AINT IN THE SOUTH WE DON'T GIVE A DAM / WE CAN SKIN A BUCK & RUN A TROUTE LINE & A COUNTRY BOY CAN (SURVIVE)>>HANK JR.

October 5th, 2009, 07:55 PM	#6
tmizzi Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 138	Funny. The indoor range I visit on a weekly basis just started pulling this exact same crap in the past few weeks. No "Russian Made" Wolf or Bear. Same BS excuse provided. __________________ To all you current and former military ... thank you for your service! Let no one forget that the sacrifices you have made allow us the freedoms we enjoy.

October 5th, 2009, 08:09 PM	#8
PaulaMoreno Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: houston texas Posts: 51	they make ppl do the same thing at our range. if they thing u have wolf they will ask you to leave it at the counter. i dont like that. __________________ if guns are outlawed only outlaws will carry guns

October 5th, 2009, 08:13 PM	#9
EW3 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 935	My range has a large sign on the door before you go in that says: "NO ALUMINUM OR STEEL CASED AMMO PERMITTED". They told me it was due to having to sort out the steel from the brass. Oh well, their range, their rules. __________________ "Naked and Starving as They are We Cannot Enough Admire the Incomparable Patience and Fidelity of the Soldiery" – George Washington, Valley Forge, 1777.

October 5th, 2009, 08:15 PM	#10
PaulaMoreno Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: houston texas Posts: 51	yeah thats what they told me! __________________ if guns are outlawed only outlaws will carry guns

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