The difference?

Delcorbett · October 7th, 2009, 11:46 PM

I had purchased a box of 155grn Federal Hydra-shok's in .40 sw a while back and have used them mostly at the range for break in ammo for my new G23. I was back on the ammo to go site and looking at the .40 they had and I got to wondering, What is the difference between Federal LE Tactical Bonded HP, Federal LE Tactical HST, Federal LE Tactical Hydra-shok and Federal Le Tactical Hi-shok? Does a 300 pound crack head really care? I am sure they all have different performance, but is a 25 dollar box of hydra-shok better then a 20 dollar box of Hi-shok? Every penny is tight now. Both are 50 rounders

Ragin Cajun · October 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM

Out of all you mentioned the HST's are Federal's newest offering and probably offer the most expansion. Personally in my testing of the Hi Shok, some didn't expand very well. I would spend a few dollors more and get the HST's. The Hydra Shoks are good but not my favorite. They are pretty much a Hi Shok with a post in the middle.

cmdrdredd · October 8th, 2009, 10:14 PM

The HST ammo is the newest design. It's probably the best defense ammo on the market right now. Expands larger than any other out there. The Bonded ammo is basically a Gold Dot with Federal's name on the packaging and casing. I know it's not the same design, but it has the same functionality and similar results in testing. It's good, but HST is better if you can get it.

gglass · October 9th, 2009, 08:10 PM

This report goes back to 1997. Some of the newer and more advanced types of ammunition were not yet available, but the results of the "old stuff" speaks for itself. These are real stopping power statistics results from the street in the handgun caliber's most often used by law enforcement personnel.

In the .40 S&W section, you will see that many of the older bullet designs still had real world stop percentages in the 90% plus range. In fact, the 40 S&W shows real world stop percentages that beat the venerable .45 ACP.

I always try to choose the most advanced and proven cartridge available, but I'm pretty sure that a 300 pound crack-head will be just as dead with a Hydra-Shok from the 1990's as from a HST today.

Selecting the Duty Weapon--Is Caliber the Key?

hogdaddy · October 9th, 2009, 09:03 PM

With today's ammo it's pretty mutch any S/D hollow point will do the job,
If you do yours ; ) H/D

October 7th, 2009, 11:46 PM	#1
Delcorbett Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 88	The difference? I had purchased a box of 155grn Federal Hydra-shok's in .40 sw a while back and have used them mostly at the range for break in ammo for my new G23. I was back on the ammo to go site and looking at the .40 they had and I got to wondering, What is the difference between Federal LE Tactical Bonded HP, Federal LE Tactical HST, Federal LE Tactical Hydra-shok and Federal Le Tactical Hi-shok? Does a 300 pound crack head really care? I am sure they all have different performance, but is a 25 dollar box of hydra-shok better then a 20 dollar box of Hi-shok? Every penny is tight now. Both are 50 rounders

October 8th, 2009, 10:14 PM	#3
cmdrdredd Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 698	The HST ammo is the newest design. It's probably the best defense ammo on the market right now. Expands larger than any other out there. The Bonded ammo is basically a Gold Dot with Federal's name on the packaging and casing. I know it's not the same design, but it has the same functionality and similar results in testing. It's good, but HST is better if you can get it. __________________ No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. -Thomas Jefferson You can trust to luck or fate if you want but as for me, I carry a Glock.

October 9th, 2009, 08:10 PM	#4
gglass Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 204	This report goes back to 1997. Some of the newer and more advanced types of ammunition were not yet available, but the results of the "old stuff" speaks for itself. These are real stopping power statistics results from the street in the handgun caliber's most often used by law enforcement personnel. In the .40 S&W section, you will see that many of the older bullet designs still had real world stop percentages in the 90% plus range. In fact, the 40 S&W shows real world stop percentages that beat the venerable .45 ACP. I always try to choose the most advanced and proven cartridge available, but I'm pretty sure that a 300 pound crack-head will be just as dead with a Hydra-Shok from the 1990's as from a HST today. Selecting the Duty Weapon--Is Caliber the Key? __________________ "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco."

October 9th, 2009, 09:03 PM	#5
hogdaddy Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N/E Florida Posts: 1,218	With today's ammo it's pretty mutch any S/D hollow point will do the job, If you do yours ; ) H/D __________________ WE SAY GRACE & WE SAY MAM IF YA AINT IN THE SOUTH WE DON'T GIVE A DAM / WE CAN SKIN A BUCK & RUN A TROUTE LINE & A COUNTRY BOY CAN (SURVIVE)>>HANK JR.

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October 8th, 2009, 05:10 PM	#2
Ragin Cajun Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 672	Out of all you mentioned the HST's are Federal's newest offering and probably offer the most expansion. Personally in my testing of the Hi Shok, some didn't expand very well. I would spend a few dollors more and get the HST's. The Hydra Shoks are good but not my favorite. They are pretty much a Hi Shok with a post in the middle.