New Remington 12 Gauge Home Defense Rounds

beni · October 11th, 2009, 11:05 PM

I just noticed Cabelas selling this new round from Remington.

HD Ultimate Home Defense Loads

Its interesting that they are marketing these as self defense loads even though they use birdshot. Has anybody tested these rounds out? Would that size birdshot have any effect on somebody that broke into your house?

Cuda66 · October 11th, 2009, 11:30 PM

I will preface by saying that my HD shotgun is loaded with 00 buck.

However...at home defense shooting range, in which range will be measured in feet, not yards, the BB load would be rather effective. Having seen, first hand, what birdshot does to large mammals at close range, I really don't doubt it's effectiveness at halitosis range--and I mean single digit feet.

But, my guess would be that Remington is more worried about errant rounds going through walls and hitting unintended targets, which is why they aren't buckshot.

Ram Rod · October 12th, 2009, 01:14 AM

Personally, I think the #2/#4 shot size does leave good patterns out of my 870. I really like the #2 steel shot at <30'. That said, mine is still loaded with 00 buck or slugs, and sometimes the reduced recoil in the buckshot.

xdglocker · October 12th, 2009, 03:24 AM

Ditto on what Ram Rod said. But for me, Benneke Tac HD slugs and 00 Buck is what I have at the ready.

MitchellCT · October 12th, 2009, 09:30 AM

I have a client who survived a 10mm to the brainpan.
I have others who've survived being hit by cars, shot & stabbed multiple times.

I keep my HD shotgun loaded with 000 buck.

Extreme, maybe...

But then again, when you live in zombie land you don't play.

digitalexplr · October 12th, 2009, 12:42 PM

As far as I'm concerned Federal flightcontrol 00 buck is what is loaded in my 12ga.

Birdshot MAY work. 00 buck WILL work!

automatic slim · October 12th, 2009, 12:45 PM

I think we have to remember that there are situations requiring penetrating walls and doors. In a case like that, I want something that will punch through an obstruction. I'll stick with buckshot.

Bart · October 12th, 2009, 05:04 PM

It's just me and the wife in the house, nearest neighbor is about a hundred yards away in all directions. I'll stay with the 00 buck magnum load for our home defense.

nedrgr21 · October 12th, 2009, 10:18 PM

If it won't go thru a couple of walls, it damn sure won't reach the BG's vitals.

stoprilshoot · October 13th, 2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart

I'll stay with the 00 buck magnum load for our home defense.

magnum huh?

October 11th, 2009, 11:05 PM	#1
beni Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 17	New Remington 12 Gauge Home Defense Rounds I just noticed Cabelas selling this new round from Remington. HD Ultimate Home Defense Loads Its interesting that they are marketing these as self defense loads even though they use birdshot. Has anybody tested these rounds out? Would that size birdshot have any effect on somebody that broke into your house?

October 12th, 2009, 01:14 AM	#3
Ram Rod VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: crawford county, arkansas Posts: 8,807	Personally, I think the #2/#4 shot size does leave good patterns out of my 870. I really like the #2 steel shot at <30'. That said, mine is still loaded with 00 buck or slugs, and sometimes the reduced recoil in the buckshot. __________________ RamRod-----sans remords live, eat, breathe, sleep Glock

October 12th, 2009, 12:42 PM	#6
digitalexplr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Jefferson City, MO Posts: 655	As far as I'm concerned Federal flightcontrol 00 buck is what is loaded in my 12ga. Birdshot MAY work. 00 buck WILL work! __________________ XD9sc XD40 Service Mossberg 590a1 NRA Life Member

October 12th, 2009, 12:45 PM	#7
automatic slim Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The western edge of The Confederacy Posts: 1,222	I think we have to remember that there are situations requiring penetrating walls and doors. In a case like that, I want something that will punch through an obstruction. I'll stick with buckshot. __________________ "First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand." Edge of Darkness

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October 11th, 2009, 11:30 PM	#2
Cuda66 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: minnesota Posts: 485	I will preface by saying that my HD shotgun is loaded with 00 buck. However...at home defense shooting range, in which range will be measured in feet, not yards, the BB load would be rather effective. Having seen, first hand, what birdshot does to large mammals at close range, I really don't doubt it's effectiveness at halitosis range--and I mean single digit feet. But, my guess would be that Remington is more worried about errant rounds going through walls and hitting unintended targets, which is why they aren't buckshot. __________________ One man's theology is another man's belly laugh. --RAH

October 12th, 2009, 03:24 AM	#4
xdglocker Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CT Posts: 70	Ditto on what Ram Rod said. But for me, Benneke Tac HD slugs and 00 Buck is what I have at the ready. __________________ Bob Glock 30sf SA-XDm40 Ruger LCP Remington 870 HD "I'm not Paranoid.....I'm Prepared"--SGT T

October 12th, 2009, 09:30 AM	#5
MitchellCT Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,005	I have a client who survived a 10mm to the brainpan. I have others who've survived being hit by cars, shot & stabbed multiple times. I keep my HD shotgun loaded with 000 buck. Extreme, maybe... But then again, when you live in zombie land you don't play.

October 12th, 2009, 05:04 PM	#8
Bart Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 333	It's just me and the wife in the house, nearest neighbor is about a hundred yards away in all directions. I'll stay with the 00 buck magnum load for our home defense.

October 12th, 2009, 10:18 PM	#9
nedrgr21 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: KCMO Posts: 556	If it won't go thru a couple of walls, it damn sure won't reach the BG's vitals.