Kingkoopa

I am trying to locate some Hornady Personal Defense 40S&W 180grain ammo. Everywhere I look, they are sold out of it. I want to buy some to keep in my open carry gun as I only have FMJ right now. Anyone know of anywhere that has this ammo in stock?

cmdrdredd

Are you dead set on Hornady? IMO and the opinion of ballistics experts there are many better options.

ammunitiontogo.com has the Hornady TAP CQ 180gr ammo in stock. 20 rounds for $16.95

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MitchellCT

I'm not a fan of the whole Critical Defense thing because it's not designed to FBI spec.

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gglass

Everyone should switch to Hornady. That will leave more Gold Dots Ranger T's and HST's on the shelf for me.

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MitchellCT

YES!!!

Yes.

I changed my mind. Hornady is it. Use Hornady!!!

10thmtn

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Random

I did a little searching online and came up with mostly good reviews. I don't suppose you have any links to the differing opinions?

cmdrdredd

Well, it just so happens that I have a link to Dr. Gary Roberts who is a very well respected ballistics expert who's job it is to test various bullet designs and ballistic vests etc. He has a page that lists his top picks for the best self defense ammo choices for each handgun caliber. If it's not on the list he doesn't recommend it because it did not meet his and the FBI's requirements for whatever reason. A round must pass a series of tests in calibrated ballistic gel in order to be on his recommendation list. Believe me he tests everything. He has regular updates on AR15.com

Anyway, it's here. Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo

Also here where a .38spl Hornady Critical Defense load failed to expand when fired through 4 layers of denim. BUG's: .380 ACP vs. .38 Sp - M4Carbine.net Forums

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joelg

Can't find ammo, the manufacturers allegedly can't keep up with the demand, makes one wonder what's cooking and should I leave the planet...best bet is a heavy gun that you can use as a club...reminds me of the USMC rules for a gunfight guidelines...

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stoprilshoot

there was a follow up on the .38sp and it peformed much better,also 4 other .38 rounds failed to expand as well. there is a good reason the Hornady CD in .40S&W is not on his list. its not available yet to the best of my knowledge.