Made the switch yesterday...thanks DC

MinistrMalic · October 19th, 2009, 07:07 PM

Since shortly after I started carrying, I carried a specialty round that was extremely light and gave a huge energy dump on impact. I won't go into more specifics than that, but it was an epoxy round that was pre-fragmented.

And then I trolled the forums here on DC for the last 10 months or so. The more I read, the less comfortable I became with a whiz-bang round. If it was so good, why don't more people shoot it? Why isn't it being used by LEO agencies? Why is it on the fringe?

Tried and true, that is where I want to be, but at the same time I know that changing technology and advances in ballistics and material science will continue to make improved rounds.

Well, we went to the local range yesterday to turn money into smoke and noise. At the end of our shooting I shot up my whamadyne rounds and replaced them with Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. 9mm.

Replacing the rounds in my .40 will have to wait a paycheck or two, but I have some Federal LE 155 gr. JHP that will do duty in the interim.

Thanks, ladies and gentlemen, for being a constant source of quality info and a continual stream of thought-provocation. You keep me sharp.

My Best to you and yours.

Gunnutty · October 19th, 2009, 07:37 PM

There is some great info to be found here. I too have made some changes as a result of reading the forum.

Ram Rod · October 19th, 2009, 09:00 PM

I've seemed to have been swayed in some of my ways since being here as well. For the better no doubt. Maybe I've helped someone in return, and it's always in my mission to do so. Sometimes it's not even related to firearms. The give and take, or send and receive pretty much goes unspoken here unless someone has a rather earth-shattering revelation befall them. I've been there too.
Become a site sponsor today, and all will be well. (my apologies for the sales pitch, but that's one of my ways of showing my gratitude here, albeit in small amounts from time to time). In the long run, it's going to assist others like you and me in making important decisions.

Sgt Z Squad · October 20th, 2009, 06:45 PM

Yep, I blew my money on some exotic ammo and am back to what most LEO's carry.

Here is a website that talks about the exotics: Exotic Ammo FAQ

I have it bookmarked since this topic comes up all the time. Shoot straight!

Lewis128 · October 20th, 2009, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgt Z Squad

Yep, I blew my money on some exotic ammo and am back to what most LEO's carry.

Here is a website that talks about the exotics: Exotic Ammo FAQ

I have it bookmarked since this topic comes up all the time. Shoot straight!

Good info! I was surprised to read the Glasser safety slug tests.
Dang thing went right through dry-wall and into the balistic gel like a normal FMJ.

10thmtn · October 21st, 2009, 05:26 PM

An attacker will likely have his arms outstretched towards you. Your bullets will likely have to penetrate his hands/arms/clothing before even getting to the vitals in the torso.

Shot placement, penetration. Ultralight, ultrafast bullets don't penetrate far enough. Period.

MinistrMalic · October 21st, 2009, 05:52 PM

Yeah, this discussion is exactly why I switched. Thanks again!

October 19th, 2009, 07:07 PM	#1
MinistrMalic Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 481	Made the switch yesterday...thanks DC Since shortly after I started carrying, I carried a specialty round that was extremely light and gave a huge energy dump on impact. I won't go into more specifics than that, but it was an epoxy round that was pre-fragmented. And then I trolled the forums here on DC for the last 10 months or so. The more I read, the less comfortable I became with a whiz-bang round. If it was so good, why don't more people shoot it? Why isn't it being used by LEO agencies? Why is it on the fringe? Tried and true, that is where I want to be, but at the same time I know that changing technology and advances in ballistics and material science will continue to make improved rounds. Well, we went to the local range yesterday to turn money into smoke and noise. At the end of our shooting I shot up my whamadyne rounds and replaced them with Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. 9mm. Replacing the rounds in my .40 will have to wait a paycheck or two, but I have some Federal LE 155 gr. JHP that will do duty in the interim. Thanks, ladies and gentlemen, for being a constant source of quality info and a continual stream of thought-provocation. You keep me sharp. My Best to you and yours. __________________ "...whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one." (Luke 22:36) Here is my blog if you're interested :)

October 19th, 2009, 07:37 PM	#2
Gunnutty Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,176	There is some great info to be found here. I too have made some changes as a result of reading the forum. __________________ We will be much better off when we learn to deal with things as they really are, instead of how we wish them to be!

October 19th, 2009, 09:00 PM	#3
Ram Rod VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: crawford county, arkansas Posts: 8,807	I've seemed to have been swayed in some of my ways since being here as well. For the better no doubt. Maybe I've helped someone in return, and it's always in my mission to do so. Sometimes it's not even related to firearms. The give and take, or send and receive pretty much goes unspoken here unless someone has a rather earth-shattering revelation befall them. I've been there too. Become a site sponsor today, and all will be well. (my apologies for the sales pitch, but that's one of my ways of showing my gratitude here, albeit in small amounts from time to time). In the long run, it's going to assist others like you and me in making important decisions. __________________ RamRod-----sans remords live, eat, breathe, sleep Glock

October 20th, 2009, 06:45 PM	#4
Sgt Z Squad Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 46	Yep, I blew my money on some exotic ammo and am back to what most LEO's carry. Here is a website that talks about the exotics: Exotic Ammo FAQ I have it bookmarked since this topic comes up all the time. Shoot straight! __________________ Certifed Sig Classic Pistol Armorer USMC: 1975-1979 Lawdog: 1980 to ??? Soldier of Christ: January 2000 to Eternity A Sheepdog who has found the Shepherd Romans 5:8

October 21st, 2009, 05:26 PM	#6
10thmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 656	An attacker will likely have his arms outstretched towards you. Your bullets will likely have to penetrate his hands/arms/clothing before even getting to the vitals in the torso. Shot placement, penetration. Ultralight, ultrafast bullets don't penetrate far enough. Period. __________________ The People ARE the Militia, and have a DUTY (not just a right) to be both armed and proficient in the use of said arms. Ex-Army officer; Hurricane Andrew Relief, FL, 1992; Operation Restore Hope, Somalia, 1993 NRA Life Member; Range Safety Officer Glock 26, CT Laserguard, Smartcarry

October 21st, 2009, 05:52 PM	#7
MinistrMalic Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 481	Yeah, this discussion is exactly why I switched. Thanks again! __________________ "...whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one." (Luke 22:36) Here is my blog if you're interested :)

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