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Old November 1st, 2009, 10:05 AM   #31
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Do you disbelieve the evidence found done with ballistic gelatin testing? I accept these tests as factual. They show the .40 round to penetrate about double the 9mm if I recall correctly.
No, sorry. Take a look here. All about the same.

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Old November 1st, 2009, 06:58 PM   #32
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Try different options, and then consider...

Caliber Wars are over for me
While I agree with much of your caliber wars thread, I think much of the argument makes more sense if you are concealed carrying. I love the 9mm, but as far as my night stand firearm, I will take a .45 acp and the 10 rounds that go a long with my gun. If you can eat 10 rounds of .45 acp then you are superman.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:54 PM   #33
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Sure, a .45 makes sense as a home defense pistol...IF you can make repeated hits as quickly with it as you can with a 9mm. Most folks, however, find the 9mm more controllable - all else being equal.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 10:42 PM   #34
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I ask myself the same thing a while back and the answer was
9MM.
Going up from 9MM gives more recoil and less ammo in the gun
and higher ammo cost with a slight increase in one shot stop(if you
even buy into that thinking)of about 4 to 8 percent at the cost
of at least 10 percent loss on round count in the gun.

Loss of personal performance with follow up shots for me was
hard to guess, but it was over 10 percent with .40-.45
The cost of ammo to practice with was that lower with 9MM
I can buy three boxes of 9MM for what two boxes of 40 or 45 cost
Thats a loss of 33 percent of practice to go up from 9MM to
40 or 45.

Going down from 9MM is the same story in reverse
less power (IE one shot stop)and more cost.
+1 --- this was pretty much how I decided on a 9mm for my primary EDC (G19)
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 01:19 AM   #35
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No, sorry. Take a look here. All about the same.

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Thank You for the link,
I copied that info & I will use it to sell my customers what they need.
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