9mm vs .45 - Page 2

P95Carry · April 21st, 2006, 11:22 AM

Once more three hearty cheers for Steve Camp.

Not much more need be added really (mutters to self - hoping the thread will now enter a cal war truce status!!

).

Joshua M. Smith · April 21st, 2006, 02:06 PM

...And to this board where a matter as inflammable as this can be discussed without someone striking a match.

My sentiments echo Mr. Camp's, but I do prefer the 9mm. I don't reload as of yet and ammo is cheaper allowing me to shoot 100-200 rounds per week. On live critters all ammo tested has performed well and dropped them. Out of a service sized auto like my Taurus 92, it's extrememly controllable for faster followup -- which is, I believe, to successful defense with a handgun.

I recommend it over .45acp to a beginner for these reasons if he or she is is set on getting an auto. Otherwise I recommend the .38spl +P.

Josh <><

Tangle · April 21st, 2006, 02:08 PM

Good thread, good references. I knew 9mm beat .45s all along.

Just Kiddin' guys!

On a more serious note I can give you another reason I prefer 9mm. My shooting hand thumb and wrist is getting sensitive to recoil. I suspect there's some arthritic implications here. A .45 just has too much recoil for my wrist right now. Even 9mm is too much for one-hand shooting.

chiefs-special-guy · April 21st, 2006, 03:31 PM

This is all because of the US army service pistol and related issues, right? I am no expert by any means, but the 45 acp and the 9mm are very different rounds with totally different characteristics. Sort of like comparing the 357 mag to the 44 special, right? different philosophies, speed vs. size of bullet. both are real good at what they do. 9 mm is much cheaper, at least where i get ammo.
BUT NEITHER IS A REAL REVOLVER ROUND, SO WHO CARES???

(JUst kiddin')
God Bless

SammyIamToday · April 21st, 2006, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs-special-guy

This is all because of the US army service pistol and related issues, right? I am no expert by any means, but the 45 acp and the 9mm are very different rounds with totally different characteristics. Sort of like comparing the 357 mag to the 44 special, right? different philosophies, speed vs. size of bullet. both are real good at what they do. 9 mm is much cheaper, at least where i get ammo.
BUT NEITHER IS A REAL REVOLVER ROUND, SO WHO CARES???

(JUst kiddin')
God Bless

Didn't they stop making revolvers around like 1747?? You antique collecter you...

chiefs-special-guy · April 21st, 2006, 05:31 PM

well, no sammyiam (obviously NOT your REAL name!)!
there is still a small group of Amish craftsmen in rural Indiana who hand make revolvers for a tiny group of people living in caves in Alabama, with whom I am proud to be numbered!
So THERE!

God Bless

Joshua M. Smith · April 21st, 2006, 05:34 PM

Naw, 1873 was the last year a real revolver was introduced. Ever since then it's been downhill :D

Josh <><

Colin · April 21st, 2006, 10:24 PM

Repeat after me 7.63x25, after all millions of Soviet soliders can't be wrong!

Hunting Coyotes · April 21st, 2006, 10:41 PM

Stephen Camp,

This is a great forum...and you are one of the great contributors. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with us students who still have lots of learning to do!

srfl · April 22nd, 2006, 01:11 AM

...yet another outstanding S. A. Camp post/review.

I do not feel undergunned in the slightest with the 9mm....and usually carry two (Kahrs) off-duty.

April 21st, 2006, 11:22 AM	#11
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,366	Once more three hearty cheers for Steve Camp. Not much more need be added really (mutters to self - hoping the thread will now enter a cal war truce status!! ). __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

April 21st, 2006, 02:06 PM	#12
Joshua M. Smith Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wabash IN Posts: 617	...And to this board where a matter as inflammable as this can be discussed without someone striking a match. My sentiments echo Mr. Camp's, but I do prefer the 9mm. I don't reload as of yet and ammo is cheaper allowing me to shoot 100-200 rounds per week. On live critters all ammo tested has performed well and dropped them. Out of a service sized auto like my Taurus 92, it's extrememly controllable for faster followup -- which is, I believe, to successful defense with a handgun. I recommend it over .45acp to a beginner for these reasons if he or she is is set on getting an auto. Otherwise I recommend the .38spl +P. Josh <>< __________________ Is it better to live by a corrupt society's standards rather than face persecution for not doing the same? This is the dilemma we now face. We must hold fast to our convictions as we confront this dilemma. Knowing one's self goes a long way in the crisis. - Me H&A Firearms Board

April 21st, 2006, 03:31 PM	#14
chiefs-special-guy Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 249	This is all because of the US army service pistol and related issues, right? I am no expert by any means, but the 45 acp and the 9mm are very different rounds with totally different characteristics. Sort of like comparing the 357 mag to the 44 special, right? different philosophies, speed vs. size of bullet. both are real good at what they do. 9 mm is much cheaper, at least where i get ammo. BUT NEITHER IS A REAL REVOLVER ROUND, SO WHO CARES??? (JUst kiddin') God Bless __________________ Six for sure...Uh, I mean Five. Five for sure..

April 21st, 2006, 05:31 PM	#16
chiefs-special-guy Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 249	well, no sammyiam (obviously NOT your REAL name!)! there is still a small group of Amish craftsmen in rural Indiana who hand make revolvers for a tiny group of people living in caves in Alabama, with whom I am proud to be numbered! So THERE! God Bless __________________ Six for sure...Uh, I mean Five. Five for sure..

April 21st, 2006, 05:34 PM	#17
Joshua M. Smith Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wabash IN Posts: 617	Naw, 1873 was the last year a real revolver was introduced. Ever since then it's been downhill :D Josh <>< __________________ Is it better to live by a corrupt society's standards rather than face persecution for not doing the same? This is the dilemma we now face. We must hold fast to our convictions as we confront this dilemma. Knowing one's self goes a long way in the crisis. - Me H&A Firearms Board

April 21st, 2006, 02:08 PM	#13
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 5,801	Good thread, good references. I knew 9mm beat .45s all along. Just Kiddin' guys! On a more serious note I can give you another reason I prefer 9mm. My shooting hand thumb and wrist is getting sensitive to recoil. I suspect there's some arthritic implications here. A .45 just has too much recoil for my wrist right now. Even 9mm is too much for one-hand shooting.

April 21st, 2006, 10:24 PM	#18
Colin Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,385	Repeat after me 7.63x25, after all millions of Soviet soliders can't be wrong!

April 21st, 2006, 10:41 PM	#19
Hunting Coyotes Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 113	2nd that motion for 3 cheers Stephen Camp, This is a great forum...and you are one of the great contributors. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with us students who still have lots of learning to do!

April 22nd, 2006, 01:11 AM	#20
srfl Senior Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FL Posts: 6,432	...yet another outstanding S. A. Camp post/review. I do not feel undergunned in the slightest with the 9mm....and usually carry two (Kahrs) off-duty. __________________ USAF: Loving Our Obscene Amenities Since 1947

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