To +p or not to +p that is the question - Page 2

Steelhorse · May 5th, 2006, 10:57 AM

What? No '+P+' ???

joe/OH · May 6th, 2006, 12:45 PM

I still don't see a good reason for ME not to use +P if 1) it functions flawlessly in my gun and 2) recoil is still manageable for fast follow-up shots.

You're not going to be shooting these things for practice - so wear/tear on your gun is not an issue.

Flash may or may not be an issue depending on your gun - shoot a few in the dark - if it's an issue - don't use them.

As far as my ears - I don't worry about them in a SD situation. I'll pull the trigger on that short 357 indoors and deal with the hearing loss later.

Concerning practice - I understand where folks are coming from - and it is entirely a personal choice. But I've practiced with a lot of non +P - and occasionally will practice with +P - and training at self-defense ranges - I can't see a difference in my accuracy or follow up shots.

I guess the best answer is to buy a couple of boxes and try it out for yourself. Shoot a few jugs of water or wetpack as well.

If shot placement was the ONLY consideration - then I would carry a .22.

sixgun · May 7th, 2006, 09:07 AM

Thanks for the tips guys. Im going to do some more testing at the range soon just to make sure. It was a fast trip the other day so I just want to be sure of this load in my gun. Have a good one guys.

Sixgun

erh · May 7th, 2006, 09:39 AM

I've never been a +p type; std. pressure works just fine for me, since I started...

BigEd63 · May 7th, 2006, 12:40 PM

Carry whatever proves out to be the most reliable, accurate and proven performer on target; with the first 2 being tested in YOUR firearm.

frankmako · May 7th, 2006, 03:14 PM

Carry +P+ Hydro-Shok in my S&W Model 60. Carry ammo only, don't shoot much of it at the range. On Q-days they want us to shoot 50 rounds, but I don't. I "Q" with .38 sp wad cutters. But others agents will shoot the +P+ in their model 36 and/or 60. Saw one gun lock up after 30 rounds. They tell us the model 36/60 will shoot the +P+'s but I don't. Feel that it will be OK to run five rounds when I need them, but not every quarter during "Q". The gun is my BUG on duty and if I got to shoot it things have gone bad, real bad. Not many carries the wheel gun as a BUG. Most don't even carry a BUG. The only auto that they will let us carry as a BUG is the Glock 26 and/or 27. I have them also, but the Model 60 is lighter. Guest I still "Old School", that is what the new kids tell me. Must be the gray hair and/or lack of hair.

frankmako

TonySoprano · May 8th, 2006, 03:00 AM

Was using Federal HydraShok 124+P+ in my Kahr and my supply dried up and switched to Federal HST 147 and EFMJ 124+P and CorBon 115+P. The loads I listed worked well and were very very accurate out of my gun

ka0azs · May 9th, 2006, 04:50 PM

Only use +P's in my Model 19 (158gr LSWCHP +P) Since it was designed for .357Mag, no problems with the thousands of +P handloads and hundreds of factory loads I've put throught it. Very controllable with good follow up shots and excellent reliablity in that piece.

Standard pressure loads only in my BHP

May 7th, 2006, 09:39 AM	#14
erh Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Savannah, GA. Posts: 419	I've never been a +p type; std. pressure works just fine for me, since I started... __________________ Eric Howland Savannah, GA.

May 9th, 2006, 04:50 PM	#18
ka0azs Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 103	Only use +P's in my Model 19 (158gr LSWCHP +P) Since it was designed for .357Mag, no problems with the thousands of +P handloads and hundreds of factory loads I've put throught it. Very controllable with good follow up shots and excellent reliablity in that piece. Standard pressure loads only in my BHP __________________ Randy NRA Life Member

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May 5th, 2006, 10:57 AM	#11
Steelhorse Closed Account Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 178	What? No '+P+' ???

May 6th, 2006, 12:45 PM	#12
joe/OH Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cinci, OH Posts: 376	I still don't see a good reason for ME not to use +P if 1) it functions flawlessly in my gun and 2) recoil is still manageable for fast follow-up shots. You're not going to be shooting these things for practice - so wear/tear on your gun is not an issue. Flash may or may not be an issue depending on your gun - shoot a few in the dark - if it's an issue - don't use them. As far as my ears - I don't worry about them in a SD situation. I'll pull the trigger on that short 357 indoors and deal with the hearing loss later. Concerning practice - I understand where folks are coming from - and it is entirely a personal choice. But I've practiced with a lot of non +P - and occasionally will practice with +P - and training at self-defense ranges - I can't see a difference in my accuracy or follow up shots. I guess the best answer is to buy a couple of boxes and try it out for yourself. Shoot a few jugs of water or wetpack as well. If shot placement was the ONLY consideration - then I would carry a .22.

May 7th, 2006, 09:07 AM	#13
sixgun Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: indiana usa Posts: 807	Thanks for the tips guys. Im going to do some more testing at the range soon just to make sure. It was a fast trip the other day so I just want to be sure of this load in my gun. Have a good one guys. Sixgun

May 7th, 2006, 12:40 PM	#15
BigEd63 Ex Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 318	Carry whatever proves out to be the most reliable, accurate and proven performer on target; with the first 2 being tested in YOUR firearm.

May 7th, 2006, 03:14 PM	#16
frankmako Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 1,890	Carry +P+ Hydro-Shok in my S&W Model 60. Carry ammo only, don't shoot much of it at the range. On Q-days they want us to shoot 50 rounds, but I don't. I "Q" with .38 sp wad cutters. But others agents will shoot the +P+ in their model 36 and/or 60. Saw one gun lock up after 30 rounds. They tell us the model 36/60 will shoot the +P+'s but I don't. Feel that it will be OK to run five rounds when I need them, but not every quarter during "Q". The gun is my BUG on duty and if I got to shoot it things have gone bad, real bad. Not many carries the wheel gun as a BUG. Most don't even carry a BUG. The only auto that they will let us carry as a BUG is the Glock 26 and/or 27. I have them also, but the Model 60 is lighter. Guest I still "Old School", that is what the new kids tell me. Must be the gray hair and/or lack of hair. frankmako

May 8th, 2006, 03:00 AM	#17
TonySoprano Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bada Bing Strip Club Posts: 168	Was using Federal HydraShok 124+P+ in my Kahr and my supply dried up and switched to Federal HST 147 and EFMJ 124+P and CorBon 115+P. The loads I listed worked well and were very very accurate out of my gun