dboutwell

Il State Police Carried S/w 39's And They Hated Them. Backed Them Up A Few Times Myself In 1977. One Was Hitting A Supect With His Gun, Because It Would Not Fire,,,,,,,,,,, Lol And It's True I Saw Him Doing It

dimmak

Here we go....

"Please keep hands and feet inside the ride at all times"....

I love this!

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Mass-Diver

Picture a BG guy on Meth with a body armor, an AK, and some training.....pretty scary.....and that's what lots of our guys in Iraq are facing everyday.

For some reason it's seldom published in the media, but all the soliders I've talked to are aware of it.

In this article, the soliders mention how they where told to focus on head shots, because body shoot where not stopping drugged up insurgents: http://www.natashatynes.org/newswire...ents_foug.html

Rob99VMI04

I don't think it does. The guy was also shot by 2 12 gauge slugs. I don't think at this point it mattered what he was shot by. He was obviosly on some kind of dope that numbed his whole body. I really don't think it would have mattered if he was hit with 9 or .45 or 40. At that point you have to get a CNS shot.

ispcapt

Not so at all. The 39 was very well received and liked. It was the issued duty gun from 1968 until going to the 439 in 1981. No doubt you could find the few who complained about the 39. Afterall, they're cops, they complain about everything.

Tubby45

Yup. Quality, deep penetrating bullet construction is essential in any handgun, no matter the caliber. I think if they had bullets available to day, such as the Ranger, HS, Golden Sabre, the guy wouldn't have needed 33 shots to go down. Maybe 10% of that.

In any cartridge, if you use an inferior bullet you will have less than satisfactory results. You can use a junk bullet in 9mm, 10mm, 45acp, whatever and still have bad results.

The caliber wasn't the issue here. The issue was poor bullets that didn't penetrate deep enough to do catastrophic damage to the cardio and/or CNS system(s). It had nothing to do with the stampings on the barrel.

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gotammo

100 gr. Winchester PowerPoint softnose bullets not my choice for carry.

ispcapt

In 1977 the choices for auto ammo was a lot more limited than it is today. The HP ammo that was around was usually so blunt nose that it was not 100% reliable in autos. Most of the defensive auto ammo for 9mm was 100-125 gr SP stuff. Quite a bit of revolver ammo carried by cops was SP too. Might find some carrying Super Vel or handloads but the develop of good HP was just getting into the swing.

SammyIamToday

That was posted in May. Necroing it to start a caliber war isn't nice. Either way, I still stand by the statement.

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sheepdog

I think I recall seeing an autopsy style drawing of this famous 33 round failure, with dots showing a lot of non-vital, edge hits.
I doesn't prove anything. I also know a story about a guy shot once in the stomach with a 9mm 115 Federal 9BP and he went down like a sack of rocks. You might even call me a "witness," so I know it's true.

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