Trooper Mark Coates video, Armed citizens almost shot by backup officers

BushidoMarine · September 1st, 2006, 06:06 AM

PM me for the link...

At the 8:35 mark on the video, the first officer arrives on the scene, and seems about a hair's breadth away from shooting two witnesses who stopped to help Trooper Coates. It notes in the video that one of the two has a .380 in his hand when the trooper arrives on scene. This citizen's willingness to help law enforcement is commendable

, but it damn near got him shot

for his efforts.

Citizen trying to help at scene of officer shooting with gun in hand when other officers arrive = very, VERY BAD idea

I think we can all learn a lot from seeing how hyped up the first officer is in this video, and how confusion at the scene almost led to a 'friendly fire' incident.

Discuss.

SIGguy229 · September 1st, 2006, 01:25 PM

Link to video??

Tangle · September 1st, 2006, 01:52 PM

Yep, because we know we're the good guy, we may forget that the police may not have any idea who the good and bad guys are. If you're on the scene with a gun in hand, you'll get the full attention of the police.

USPnTX · September 1st, 2006, 02:03 PM

Am I missing the link?

MattLarson · September 1st, 2006, 03:00 PM

According to the little note on the first post, it was Edit by Rocky and the link removed.

"Last edited by rocky : Today at 06:38 AM. Reason: No video of PD being shot ."

Matt

plblark · September 1st, 2006, 04:08 PM

google the his name and you'll soon ge to the link. It's scary how fast that situation could have gone BAD for the witnesses. The troopers were seriously excited and upset.

dimmak · September 2nd, 2006, 10:13 PM

glad no one was accidentally killed...

cagueits · September 3rd, 2006, 11:58 AM

If anyone finds the link, please post it - I can't seem to find it on Google.

lowflyer · September 3rd, 2006, 12:14 PM

Yeah, all I can find are links that talk of the Mark Coates training videos and posts in forums where other people are commenting on having seen it. I don't want to see an officer shot, but now that I have read the transcripts and so many posts from police officer cadets who have seen it as part of their training, I am curious as to the training value of it. Anybody that has the link, please PM me with it.

CombatEffective · September 3rd, 2006, 12:47 PM

It happened where I-95 crosses into SC from GA. That stretch of the road is named for the trooper and gives me shivers everytime I ride through there.

The trooper made a tactical error when conducting a patdown of the perp. They began to fight and the perp gets off a single shot with a .22. The shot goes into the trooper's side through the velcro strap on his vest and hits his aorta (sp?).

The trooper draws his revolver loaded with .38sp+P and shoots the perp five times but didn't hit anything vital. The trooper was able to put out a radio call, IIRC, and slowly bled to death. The perp lived.

A citizen stopped to help and was almost capped when a responding trooper arrived on scene.

The video was shown to us quite a few times in the academy.

September 1st, 2006, 06:06 AM	#1
BushidoMarine Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kawasaki, Japan Posts: 219	Trooper Mark Coates video, Armed citizens almost shot by backup officers PM me for the link... At the 8:35 mark on the video, the first officer arrives on the scene, and seems about a hair's breadth away from shooting two witnesses who stopped to help Trooper Coates. It notes in the video that one of the two has a .380 in his hand when the trooper arrives on scene. This citizen's willingness to help law enforcement is commendable , but it damn near got him shot for his efforts. Citizen trying to help at scene of officer shooting with gun in hand when other officers arrive = very, VERY BAD idea I think we can all learn a lot from seeing how hyped up the first officer is in this video, and how confusion at the scene almost led to a 'friendly fire' incident. Discuss. __________________ "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC Last edited by BushidoMarine; September 5th, 2006 at 12:32 PM..

September 1st, 2006, 02:03 PM	#4
USPnTX Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,380	Am I missing the link? __________________ "Do not fear those who disagree with you; fear those that do and are too cowardly to admit it" - Napoleon

September 1st, 2006, 03:00 PM	#5
MattLarson Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,855	According to the little note on the first post, it was Edit by Rocky and the link removed. "Last edited by rocky : Today at 06:38 AM. Reason: No video of PD being shot ." Matt __________________ Hope is not a plan.

September 2nd, 2006, 10:13 PM	#7
dimmak Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: TN Posts: 1,755	glad no one was accidentally killed... __________________ "Ray Nagin is a colossal disappointment" - NRA/ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox. "...be water, my friend."

September 3rd, 2006, 12:14 PM	#9
lowflyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 1,163	Yeah, all I can find are links that talk of the Mark Coates training videos and posts in forums where other people are commenting on having seen it. I don't want to see an officer shot, but now that I have read the transcripts and so many posts from police officer cadets who have seen it as part of their training, I am curious as to the training value of it. Anybody that has the link, please PM me with it. __________________ Whatever doesn't kill you postpones the inevitable.

September 1st, 2006, 01:25 PM	#2
SIGguy229 VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 2,272	Link to video??

September 1st, 2006, 01:52 PM	#3
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 6,611	Yep, because we know we're the good guy, we may forget that the police may not have any idea who the good and bad guys are. If you're on the scene with a gun in hand, you'll get the full attention of the police.

September 1st, 2006, 04:08 PM	#6
plblark Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 284	google the his name and you'll soon ge to the link. It's scary how fast that situation could have gone BAD for the witnesses. The troopers were seriously excited and upset.

September 3rd, 2006, 11:58 AM	#8
cagueits Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 846	If anyone finds the link, please post it - I can't seem to find it on Google.

September 3rd, 2006, 12:47 PM	#10
CombatEffective Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,000	It happened where I-95 crosses into SC from GA. That stretch of the road is named for the trooper and gives me shivers everytime I ride through there. The trooper made a tactical error when conducting a patdown of the perp. They began to fight and the perp gets off a single shot with a .22. The shot goes into the trooper's side through the velcro strap on his vest and hits his aorta (sp?). The trooper draws his revolver loaded with .38sp+P and shoots the perp five times but didn't hit anything vital. The trooper was able to put out a radio call, IIRC, and slowly bled to death. The perp lived. A citizen stopped to help and was almost capped when a responding trooper arrived on scene. The video was shown to us quite a few times in the academy. __________________ Shooters' Legacy Special sections for S&W and Ruger

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