AZ Husker

Sorry, I didn't mean to infer "old school" is bad, (I'm old school and hanging in), I just meant the original styles are no longer popular with the new "operator" mindset.

SIXTO

Old school is coming back... cause like Chuck says "Gimmicks dont work"

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BikerRN

Hey, I'm old and "Old School" too. I'm so old that I still refer to "bottomfeeders" as "Jamamatics".

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joffe

While we're on the topic of Clint Smith DVDs.. Has anyone seen Defensive Firearms? If so,



What did he say about the use of two guns at once as demonstrated on the cover? I thought this was a strange way of selling his DVD, as I got the impression that this practice belongs in Hong Kong action movies and video games.

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SIXTO

I'm not sure what that is all about... probably just a photo to peak consumers interest. He is not a "hollywood" type like some others out there.

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MaxLoad

Old school here too, guys.
I think Clint Smith's approach is great. It's all about driving home the mechanics of the technique he's trying to share, over and over - with a 'bit' of intensity.
He want's to make sure you 'get it'.
I think he's great on PDTV and if I didn't live so far away from Thunder Ranch I take one of his courses.

Jamie Young

I have the Urban Rifle DVD. I thought it was very basic, but there are always new shooters that don't know the basics. I still have to re-watch various parts to practice certain positions. Like most movies, there are always things you didn't see before after you watch the same thing over and over.

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Speaking as someone who has been to his school, I can tell you that what Clint teaches is as useful today as it was then. The most telling part of his teaching happens when you begin actually shooting, though. I remember walking into his office in Mountain Home, and his first statement to me was: Leave your ego at the door, because I am going to trash it the first day". He made this statement not out of arrogance, but because he knew I was an IPSC shooter. What you don't see (or feel) in his videos is the sheer intensity of the actual hands-on shooting that is done in his courses. No DVD can capture this, believe me.

The biggest blow my ego ever suffered occurred when I entered his kill houses to clear them. Inside, I found that targets that I nailed with double-taps in the critical mass area didn't move or fall away, signaling that they had been neutralized; I also found that when failing to "slice the pie" properly, a hidden paintball gun began shooting me rapid fire, all over the place up and down my body.

I also found out that the same thing happened when you charged up stairways too quickly as well. he also had innocent bystanders that popped into hallways after you fired the first shot. Of course, all of his videos may seem basic, but I can assure everyone that if you spend the money and go to his school you will:

1) Be very humbled by everything you don't know.

2) The "M" card you have in IPSC or IDPA is not even worth the paper it is printed on (just entering one of his kill houses will teach you this quickly).

What I gleaned from Mr. Smith all those years ago was this: Gunfighting is a very brutal thing that often erupts very quickly. Your tactics to survive one, therefore, must be as efficient as possible. Don't buy into the latest "magical fad" because there is no magical fad. There are time tested and battle-proven techniques that can be practiced and mastered to handle just about any situation, the key is to learn them and learn them well. Clint learned his craft from the founding father of our discipline, Jeff Cooper. While many others have come along and caused our techniques to evolve over time, the core principles remain the same.

So while Clint may seem to some as "basic", I assure you that he is that way because he knows what works and what doesn't from actual experience.....

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Scot Van

I think it is worth the time to read stuff that Mr. Smith has written, as well. I've read many columns over the years that included ideas that have become part of my 'toolbox'.

We're talking about a guy who is just shy of thirty years of experience w/defensive techniques AFTER leaving LE, so of course he's got something for you to learn! I've seen mention of 'old school' earlier in the thread, and I respectfully submit that the answer lies in the wording; you don't get to be that if you don't have your you-know-what together...especially if you've been on the ground in a jungle for two tours of duty and then on a beat in the concrete version for seven years.

Seek him out, Jedi. There is always more to learn!

I welcome any opportunity to train with him.

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crzy4guns

Does anyone know if Clint Smith has any videos on concealed carry?