PDTV no longer on "the Outdoor Channel"

TN_Mike · December 7th, 2008, 03:58 PM

This is in another thread as well but it was merged with another thread recently. And I think this deserves it's own thread for all the PDTV fans out there. Mods, please don't merge this with the thread about the show that will be replacing PDTV on Outdoor Channel.

Personal Defense TV is no longer going to be on The Outdoor Channel. Why is explained below in the article from Tom Gresham's (the host of PDTV) website.

PDTV on Sportsman Channel

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Personal Defense TV, Outdoor Channel, Misinformation and Spin

Several members of the Truth Squad have contacted me about the "news" that the Outdoor Channel has dropped Personal Defense TV. You'll note the quotation marks around the word "news" because the simple fact is that this is not what has happened.

Here's the skinny as it was told to me by a key participant.

Personal Defense TV is one of 10 television shows produced by Intermedia Outdoors (IMO). This is the company which publishes Guns & Ammo, Shooting Times, Petersen's Hunting, and a bunch of other magazines. IMO also purchased The Sportsman Channel about a year ago. Over the last few months, IMO has been in negotiations with the Outdoor Channel (OC) about the shows IMO produces, and last Wednesday, according to my sources at IMO (and I get this from the very top), they hit the wall. Increased prices and unrealistic demands from OC made it impossible for IMO to continue. Wednesday night, a top IMO manager informed OC that the company would not be renewing any of its shows with Outdoor Channel. In other words, as each show's contract runs out, IMO was pulling its top-rated shows.

TV shows from IMO consistently rate in the top 10 shows on the network.

Up to this point, it was just corporate negotiation and decisions, which are usually out of sight of the public. Then it got ugly.

The Outdoor Channel then put out a news release which contained more than a suggestion that the channel actually was removing the award-winning Intermedia Outdoor shows (Guns & Ammo, Petersen's Hunting, In-Fisherman, Personal Defense TV, etc., etc.) to improve the quality of programming. In other words, it was dumping these crummy shows.

The reaction was quick, and interesting to watch. Jim Shepherd, a veteran television manager and creator of the Outdoor Wire and Shooting Wire (highly recommended) called BS on the OC release. At the NRA Annual Meetings in Louisville, KY, last weekend, people in the firearms industry saw through the spin. It was a case of "You didn't dump me. I'm dumping YOU," and everyone recognized it for the silliness it was.

PDTV is NOT Going Away

So, what now for Personal Defense TV and other shows? Not to worry. Clearly, they will appear on The Sportsman Channel. Now that IMO has cut the apron strings to OC, it can get about its work to increase the distribution of Sportsman Channel. Expect to see news releases on deals putting SC on cable systems around the country, and possibly on one or both of the satellite services. Click Here if you would like to contact your local network provider and request The Sportsman Channel (or visit The Sportsman Channel and click on "GET THE CHANNEL"). There's also the very real possibility that you'll see some IMO shows, including PDTV, on other networks (in addition to SC).

Personal Defense TV was my idea. It was tough to get the show on the air. Even gun makers were nervous about it at first. Because I knew what people wanted to talk about on Gun Talk Radio, though, I knew that personal defense is the number one topic -- period. Nothing else even comes close. I'm proud to be able to break ground with this show and it has been really well received.

We are almost finished shooting Season Three of PDTV, which will feature Massad Ayoob, Clint Smith, the world-class instructors at Gunsite, Tiger McKee of Shootrite (a new addition to PDTV), and a new weekly feature I think you'll enjoy. That begins airing in October. You'll see Heidi Smith and Il Ling New on the show this year, too. We bring the best instructors to you.

And...you didn't really think that after three years of bringing you the ground-breaking instruction on PDTV we were going to leave it at that, did you? Stay tuned for even more programs about the topics which you hear on "Tom Gresham's Gun Talk" radio show every week.

I checked and the Sportsman Channel was available on my cable system but I had to add it to my package for an extra $5 a month. I bought it because I like PDTV that much and I feel it is worth it.

Rcher · December 7th, 2008, 10:56 PM

I like this program as well but cannot add it to my satellite without a bunch of other crap with it. The Sportsmans Channel has online broadcasting for $4.95 p/mo and that sounds like a good option for those who cant get it on their cable package. I think it may be the only chance I have to see it.

Miggy · December 7th, 2008, 11:18 PM

Rcher... DirecTV usually charges a buck 99 for adding one channel A La Carte. Call them, don't try to find it online

MarkG27 · December 7th, 2008, 11:43 PM

I found it on Fox Sports South, not sure if that is the same or not.
I DVR every show.

Personal Defense TV

TheShadow · December 7th, 2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkG27

I found it on Fox Sports South, not sure if that is the same or not.
I DVR every show.

Personal Defense TV

Yeah me to

Another good show is Tactical Impact also on Sportsouth.

tnroadrunner · December 8th, 2008, 09:17 AM

I have Directv and get both Personal Defense and Tactical Impact on the Pursuit Channel. This came with my Directv package. The Outdoor Channel I had to order al a carte for an extra $2.99 a month.

Rcher · December 8th, 2008, 09:28 AM

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DirecTV usually charges a buck 99 for adding one channel A La Carte. Call them, don't try to find it online

I have Dish network, cant find it online. I may have to call them.

AllAmerican · December 10th, 2008, 12:32 PM

I just cancelled outdoor channel since PDTV does in fact come on the Pursuit channel otherwise known as HUNT.

What times are Tactical Impact and PDTV on?

fatcat · December 10th, 2008, 12:46 PM

Yeah I just started getting it on the HUNT channel on DTV too....... which is good since the Outdoor Channel for some reason was taken off my usual subscription and made part of some "sports" package which I do not really want at all.

walvord · December 10th, 2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rcher

I have Dish network, cant find it online. I may have to call them.

Let us know what you find out - I have DISH network also..

December 7th, 2008, 10:56 PM	#2
Rcher Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Montana (resident) Utah (currently) Posts: 1,092	I like this program as well but cannot add it to my satellite without a bunch of other crap with it. The Sportsmans Channel has online broadcasting for $4.95 p/mo and that sounds like a good option for those who cant get it on their cable package. I think it may be the only chance I have to see it. __________________ >>----> Keep it Concealed: *"The Element of Surprise is Far Superior than the Target of Fate".*

December 7th, 2008, 11:18 PM	#3
Miggy Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Miami-Dade, FL Posts: 6,243	Rcher... DirecTV usually charges a buck 99 for adding one channel A La Carte. Call them, don't try to find it online __________________ You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming. Randy Cain. GunFreeZone.net

December 8th, 2008, 09:17 AM	#6
tnroadrunner Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: middle Tennessee Posts: 88	I have Directv and get both Personal Defense and Tactical Impact on the Pursuit Channel. This came with my Directv package. The Outdoor Channel I had to order al a carte for an extra $2.99 a month. __________________ Bob Its always a great day, if you don't believe me try missing one. NRA, TFA, IDPA, 3 Gun

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December 7th, 2008, 11:43 PM	#4
MarkG27 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NC Posts: 43	I found it on Fox Sports South, not sure if that is the same or not. I DVR every show. Personal Defense TV

December 10th, 2008, 12:32 PM	#8
AllAmerican VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Chesterfield, Kakalaki del Sur Posts: 2,401	I just cancelled outdoor channel since PDTV does in fact come on the Pursuit channel otherwise known as HUNT. What times are Tactical Impact and PDTV on?

December 10th, 2008, 12:46 PM	#9
fatcat Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 318	Yeah I just started getting it on the HUNT channel on DTV too....... which is good since the Outdoor Channel for some reason was taken off my usual subscription and made part of some "sports" package which I do not really want at all.