Patriots, by James Wesley, Rawles

miklcolt45 · April 27th, 2009, 10:46 PM

After the recommendation of Lights Out on another thread, and finishing it, I decided to check on a few other books mentioned.

Someone mentioned Patriots. James Wesley, Rawles is a former Army Intelligence officer who lectures and writes on survival topics. His site, survivalblog.com is full of information for those who feel the end of the world as we know it could be imminent and wise people should get prepared.

I picked up this 387 pg manual on how to survive the economic collapse (interesting timing, considering the book was started in the 90s, I believe) last week. A new US government comes to power following the collapse of our monetary system. This government is chummy with the U.N. When segments of the U.S. population are not willing to follow orders and even be relocated to camps 'for their own good,' UN troops are brought in to the US to help 'loyal' Armed Forces subdue those who insist on things like the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The story line is, in general, easy to follow. However, after having just finished Lights Out, I did at times get confused as to characters and who was doing what.

Patriots is much more technical than Lights Out. Everything from communications to weapons is far more detailed, including trying to help some of us non-technical folks understand the difference in types of radio signals and ranges best used to escape detection by enemy forces.

Eventually, the 'resistance' unit which the novel focuses on finds itself resisting a UN-led force trying to destroy those who will not follow the government's orders. Subsequent battles are more of resistance to military units than is true in Lights Out, where most of the battles tend to be against lawless gangs out for their own benefit.

I recommend this new version of an American Revolution. As Jefferson noted, "Ever so often, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Bumper · April 28th, 2009, 01:50 AM

I bought and read that book back in October/November, after having it recommended by a friend. It was a pretty good, like you said, considering what is going on today. I believe he said he wrote it as a work of fiction that can also serve as a "how to" book. Good read, regardless....

ProGun3400 · May 24th, 2009, 02:23 AM

Yep, read it back in the nineties. Thought it was good and bought a second as a loaner. Here is his blog: SurvivalBlog.com

NosaMSirhC · May 24th, 2009, 08:42 AM

Add 1 more to those that think it is a good book. I saw on another thread here recently there is an updated version of it that just came out recently.

Lots to think about in that book for sure.

Be Safe,

NosaM

lacrosse50 · May 24th, 2009, 08:36 PM

Add another happy reader. I haven't picked up the latest copy (I believe one or two added chapters), but the previous edition I have is an engaging and educating read.

yourbestdefense · May 28th, 2009, 11:38 PM

I just read it and JWR has added a glossary and index of topics to it to make it even more effective as a how-to. I recommend it to anyone with even a hint of preparedness to them.

stuckInNy · July 14th, 2009, 05:08 PM

yeah there is a ton of info and tech data in there... i wish i had the version with the Index.

heads up tho.. the story while interesting was written poorly... though that wasn't the point of the book

Free American · July 14th, 2009, 08:36 PM

The book is exceedingly apprapos...to the point where the president is named Jamal and is the first african American president. As far as I can tell, the info is technically accurate (not a comms guy so not too sure there) and would double as an undercover how to book.

Janq · July 16th, 2009, 12:41 PM

You know, I have never in my life met a negro named 'Jamal'.
Most every other common name but no Jamal never.

Where do people come up with this stuff?
Why couldn't dudes name be John, Steve, Mark, or Bill which are quite common...amongst American negro males.

Regardless I have received multiple personal and direct suggestions to read this book for an opinion so I plan to buy it today for reading next week as I'm on vacation.

- Henry aka 'Janq'

First Sgt · July 24th, 2009, 12:37 AM

I just purchased my copy of "Patriots". Will begin reading tomorrow.

April 27th, 2009, 10:46 PM	#1
miklcolt45 VIP Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida's Space Coast Posts: 2,147	Patriots, by James Wesley, Rawles After the recommendation of Lights Out on another thread, and finishing it, I decided to check on a few other books mentioned. Someone mentioned Patriots. James Wesley, Rawles is a former Army Intelligence officer who lectures and writes on survival topics. His site, survivalblog.com is full of information for those who feel the end of the world as we know it could be imminent and wise people should get prepared. I picked up this 387 pg manual on how to survive the economic collapse (interesting timing, considering the book was started in the 90s, I believe) last week. A new US government comes to power following the collapse of our monetary system. This government is chummy with the U.N. When segments of the U.S. population are not willing to follow orders and even be relocated to camps 'for their own good,' UN troops are brought in to the US to help 'loyal' Armed Forces subdue those who insist on things like the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The story line is, in general, easy to follow. However, after having just finished Lights Out, I did at times get confused as to characters and who was doing what. Patriots is much more technical than Lights Out. Everything from communications to weapons is far more detailed, including trying to help some of us non-technical folks understand the difference in types of radio signals and ranges best used to escape detection by enemy forces. Eventually, the 'resistance' unit which the novel focuses on finds itself resisting a UN-led force trying to destroy those who will not follow the government's orders. Subsequent battles are more of resistance to military units than is true in Lights Out, where most of the battles tend to be against lawless gangs out for their own benefit. I recommend this new version of an American Revolution. As Jefferson noted, "Ever so often, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants." __________________ Mike In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them.

April 28th, 2009, 01:50 AM	#2
Bumper Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 17,252	I bought and read that book back in October/November, after having it recommended by a friend. It was a pretty good, like you said, considering what is going on today. I believe he said he wrote it as a work of fiction that can also serve as a "how to" book. Good read, regardless.... __________________ Bumper Administrator DefensiveCarry.com Forum Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.

May 24th, 2009, 08:36 PM	#5
lacrosse50 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 595	Add another happy reader. I haven't picked up the latest copy (I believe one or two added chapters), but the previous edition I have is an engaging and educating read. __________________ The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer NRA Life Member

May 28th, 2009, 11:38 PM	#6
yourbestdefense Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 59	I just read it and JWR has added a glossary and index of topics to it to make it even more effective as a how-to. I recommend it to anyone with even a hint of preparedness to them. __________________ Owner/ Instructor Your Best Defense, LLC SC CWP training 1st Aid & CPR training www.yourbestdefensesc.com

July 14th, 2009, 08:36 PM	#8
Free American Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 702	The book is exceedingly apprapos...to the point where the president is named Jamal and is the first african American president. As far as I can tell, the info is technically accurate (not a comms guy so not too sure there) and would double as an undercover how to book. __________________ They who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Previously known as "cjm5874"

May 24th, 2009, 02:23 AM	#3
ProGun3400 New Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 1	Yep, read it back in the nineties. Thought it was good and bought a second as a loaner. Here is his blog: SurvivalBlog.com

May 24th, 2009, 08:42 AM	#4
NosaMSirhC Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 23435 Posts: 122	Add 1 more to those that think it is a good book. I saw on another thread here recently there is an updated version of it that just came out recently. Lots to think about in that book for sure. Be Safe, NosaM

July 14th, 2009, 05:08 PM	#7
stuckInNy Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NY Posts: 58	yeah there is a ton of info and tech data in there... i wish i had the version with the Index. heads up tho.. the story while interesting was written poorly... though that wasn't the point of the book

July 16th, 2009, 12:41 PM	#9
Janq VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,447	You know, I have never in my life met a negro named 'Jamal'. Most every other common name but no Jamal never. Where do people come up with this stuff? Why couldn't dudes name be John, Steve, Mark, or Bill which are quite common...amongst American negro males. Regardless I have received multiple personal and direct suggestions to read this book for an opinion so I plan to buy it today for reading next week as I'm on vacation. - Henry aka 'Janq' __________________ "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy Monday, March 12, 2007 -- Op Ed -- The Washington Post

July 24th, 2009, 12:37 AM	#10
First Sgt Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 1,786	I just purchased my copy of "Patriots". Will begin reading tomorrow. __________________ Sometimes in life you have to stand your ground. It's a hard lesson to learn and even most adults don't get it, but in the end only I can be responsible for my life. If faced with any type of adversity, only I can overcome it. Waiting for someone else to take responsibility is a long fruitless wait.

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