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Quick .38 Question
Hey all. I am looking to get a .38 snub as a ccw but I am torn as to what to get: exposed or enclosed hammer. I understand the hammerless won't snag, doesnt collect lint, etc. With an exposed hammer, your holster strap can (to a degree) keep the weapon from an accidental discharge. What keeps the hammerless from shooting you in the foot?
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Very heavy trigger. It would be very difficult to fire the gun in the pocket without squeesing the trigger
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So a trigger job on a carry revolver is not a good idea?
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A trigger job would be fine to smooth things out. As long as you don't drop the weight down too far. And if so, then just use a case and cover the trigger and guard. I think they are somewhere around 16lbs of pull. I can actually pull my gun out of the pocket with the trigger and it doesn't move at all.
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so for holster carry, a holster that cover the trigger and guard would be highly recommended?
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My BUG is a j-frame with an exposed hammer and an action job. The DA pull is around 9lbs, slightly heavier than my DAO Beretta Cougar. The only way either of them is going off is if I pull the trigger. The factory pull on a new S&W DAO snubby is around 12lbs, it's not going to fire unless you want it to.
Besides, you're going to carry it in an appropriate belt or pocket holster, right? That'll cover the trigger guard and keep stuff out of there. |
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That isn't a personal defense weapon. It's a 5-second "freebie" that the BG gets in order to kill you with no immediate consequences. And what keeps the hammerless from shooting you in the foot is the same thing that keeps the hammer design from shooting you in the foot: not pulling the trigger until you're ready to fire. |
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Yes. I have a J frame in .38. Sometimes I use a simple uncle mikes pocket holster. If my pockets are too small, I use a crossbreed supertuck or a galco outside waist band (OWB). All three of these cover the trigger guard.
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Off the top of my head, except for a couple of derringer pocket holsters designed so that you can pull the gun out in the holster and shoot it, I don't know of any quality holsters made these days that leave the trigger exposed enough to pull it.
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Only to smooth the action, not to lighten the trigger pull.
Most "fancy" custom gun work is going to be a trade off in reliablity to some degree. Carry guns need to be reliable and safe at the same time, so I'd personally refrain from changing the design of a well made handgun. |
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I may have to rethink my revolvers for carry....They have had a really good action job. really light triggers. and in single action. REALLY REALLY LIGHT!!!
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I have both exposed hammer and hammerless models of the small Smith & Wesson revolver. I've found that I prefer the models with hammers for the option of precision single action fire. The hammer spur is no problem as the thumb easily covers it upon drawing from pocket or waistband.
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that is a real good point bmcgilvray, i never thought of that.
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welcome aboard
welcome aboard dahn 16 from s.e. michigan.
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I have the S&W 637 (with hammer). Don't be so quick to think that it's any more difficult to draw because of the hammer. A little muscle memory when drawing...just keep your thumb on the hammer...no problem.
Stay armed...practice...stay safe!
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It's just the one time you don't remember to, and or, you are fighting for your life and the hammer gets snagged on your trousers? No thanks. I don't like the thought of carrying a revolver with a fully exposed hammer for self defense. I either go with a totally enclosed, or mini bobbed hammer.
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S&W 642 with enclosed hammer is IMO the perfect carry gun. Carries effortlessly in a good pocket holster. The trigger pull is heavy so no way is it going to go off without a very deliberate pull on the trigger.
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) Another advantage to the internal hammer is that in the rare, rare instance you maaaay feel the need to fire without drawing the gun (maybe from the belly pocket of a hoodie) You can be confident in getting off all your shots where an exposed hammer may catch fabric when it's being fired. A very unlikely to be necessary advantage of the enclosed hammer. But if the need does arise it could be a life changer. |
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