Spring Rod Lasers any thought?

archimeech · October 29th, 2009, 07:28 PM

Not sure if this is the proper place for it, but they are essentially an integral part of the gun when installed. I like the LaserMax replacement recoil spring/spring rod. A buddy of mine has these on his 26, 27, AND his 30. All are great subcompacts and having the laser shooting right out from under the barrel without taking up space on the outside of the gun sounds very appealing to me. I like the help in shooting while adding the old drama of a red dot on my target.

Any thoughts?

Backnblack · October 29th, 2009, 08:43 PM

I am also interested in any comments....looking to get one for my 36.

AZ Husker · October 29th, 2009, 08:58 PM

I had one, it seemed awfully fragile, but never had a breakage problem. The batteries wear out fast when compared to Crimson Trace. My main complaint (and the reason I got rid of it) was the holster would turn the laser on and it would be dead in no time.

10thmtn · October 29th, 2009, 10:40 PM

I also had my Lasermax turn on in my holster - twice.

Otherwise, a good unit. But...I like Crimson Trace better, because the laser turns on just by gripping the gun - no extra step needed.

basher052 · October 29th, 2009, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10thmtn

I also had my Lasermax turn on in my holster - twice.

Otherwise, a good unit. But...I like Crimson Trace better, because the laser turns on just by gripping the gun - no extra step needed.

Are you able to keep the Crimson Trace grips from coming on when gripping the gun?

archimeech · October 30th, 2009, 12:54 AM

How big and bulky are the crimson trace lasers?

Ram Rod · October 30th, 2009, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basher052

Are you able to keep the Crimson Trace grips from coming on when gripping the gun?

The ones I've tried out you can't. Sort of annoying to me actually. But.........at a little over half of what the internal guide rod lasers cost, I think I'd go with the CT grip lasers.

10thmtn · October 30th, 2009, 07:39 AM

My Laserguard on my G26 has an on/off switch, as does the Lasergrip on my SP101 revolver. I do most of my training without the laser on, actually.

The Lasergrip on my G19 and the Laserguard on my wife's LCP do not have the on/off switch. However, if you loosen your grip, you can keep the laser from turning on. You can also remove the batteries, or just tape over the laser, for training without it.

As far as size goes - I use a Smartcarry, so I really like the Laserguard design - it puts the laser under the dust cover. If I use flat-front pants, I found that the laser housing on the Lasergrip tends to print. May not be an issue with other holsters. The Lasergrip on the G19 fits over the pistol's grip, and does add some bulk, but it actually feels good in the hand to me - it fills in the space in your palm.

Try some out, if you can, and see for yourself. "Feel" is a personal thing...

Of the big three that I've used (ArmaLaser, CT, and Lasermax) I like CT the best. They're not perfect - all of them should have an on/off switch, and they can interfere with some holsters, or with the use of rails (in the case of the Laserguard) - but I like the fact that just gripping the gun turns them on. Just like my Glocks - point and shoot.

razor02097 · October 30th, 2009, 08:37 AM

I have heard mixed reviews about the spring guide lazers. Some say its a sweet idea and others don't like it. Few things I would ask is I would be worried about the heat of the barrel cooking the lazer during long shot sessions. Also are they not adjustable? How do they turn on?

redbird · October 30th, 2009, 08:54 AM

Guiderod lasers have their pluses and minuses. On the plus side they don't change the profile of the weapon. I have heard instances of them failing at critical times. Ajustment to zero can be a probem, although at combat distances it is close to impact point.
Most find the Crimson Trace more practical and affordable.

October 29th, 2009, 07:28 PM	#1
archimeech Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 35	Spring Rod Lasers any thought? Not sure if this is the proper place for it, but they are essentially an integral part of the gun when installed. I like the LaserMax replacement recoil spring/spring rod. A buddy of mine has these on his 26, 27, AND his 30. All are great subcompacts and having the laser shooting right out from under the barrel without taking up space on the outside of the gun sounds very appealing to me. I like the help in shooting while adding the old drama of a red dot on my target. Any thoughts?

October 29th, 2009, 08:43 PM	#2
Backnblack Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 88	I am also interested in any comments....looking to get one for my 36. __________________

October 29th, 2009, 08:58 PM	#3
AZ Husker VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3,575	I had one, it seemed awfully fragile, but never had a breakage problem. The batteries wear out fast when compared to Crimson Trace. My main complaint (and the reason I got rid of it) was the holster would turn the laser on and it would be dead in no time. __________________ Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse.

October 29th, 2009, 10:40 PM	#4
10thmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 658	I also had my Lasermax turn on in my holster - twice. Otherwise, a good unit. But...I like Crimson Trace better, because the laser turns on just by gripping the gun - no extra step needed. __________________ The People ARE the Militia, and have a DUTY (not just a right) to be both armed and proficient in the use of said arms. Ex-Army officer; Hurricane Andrew Relief, FL, 1992; Operation Restore Hope, Somalia, 1993 NRA Life Member; Range Safety Officer Glock 26, CT Laserguard, Smartcarry

October 30th, 2009, 07:39 AM	#8
10thmtn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 658	My Laserguard on my G26 has an on/off switch, as does the Lasergrip on my SP101 revolver. I do most of my training without the laser on, actually. The Lasergrip on my G19 and the Laserguard on my wife's LCP do not have the on/off switch. However, if you loosen your grip, you can keep the laser from turning on. You can also remove the batteries, or just tape over the laser, for training without it. As far as size goes - I use a Smartcarry, so I really like the Laserguard design - it puts the laser under the dust cover. If I use flat-front pants, I found that the laser housing on the Lasergrip tends to print. May not be an issue with other holsters. The Lasergrip on the G19 fits over the pistol's grip, and does add some bulk, but it actually feels good in the hand to me - it fills in the space in your palm. Try some out, if you can, and see for yourself. "Feel" is a personal thing... Of the big three that I've used (ArmaLaser, CT, and Lasermax) I like CT the best. They're not perfect - all of them should have an on/off switch, and they can interfere with some holsters, or with the use of rails (in the case of the Laserguard) - but I like the fact that just gripping the gun turns them on. Just like my Glocks - point and shoot. __________________ The People ARE the Militia, and have a DUTY (not just a right) to be both armed and proficient in the use of said arms. Ex-Army officer; Hurricane Andrew Relief, FL, 1992; Operation Restore Hope, Somalia, 1993 NRA Life Member; Range Safety Officer Glock 26, CT Laserguard, Smartcarry

October 30th, 2009, 12:54 AM	#6
archimeech Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 35	How big and bulky are the crimson trace lasers?

October 30th, 2009, 08:37 AM	#9
razor02097 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ohio Posts: 121	I have heard mixed reviews about the spring guide lazers. Some say its a sweet idea and others don't like it. Few things I would ask is I would be worried about the heat of the barrel cooking the lazer during long shot sessions. Also are they not adjustable? How do they turn on? __________________ We the people want a regulated government. They the government want a regulated people. The only thing keeping government from getting what they want is our rights. Don't let them take our rights away!

October 30th, 2009, 08:54 AM	#10
redbird Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 433	Guiderod lasers have their pluses and minuses. On the plus side they don't change the profile of the weapon. I have heard instances of them failing at critical times. Ajustment to zero can be a probem, although at combat distances it is close to impact point. Most find the Crimson Trace more practical and affordable.

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