You pick the gun

matisyahu · November 5th, 2009, 06:43 PM

By way of introduction, I am a former police officer, now an attorney, and I wear a suit every day. Often I go to courts where I have to luck up my piece with the court officers or in my car.

These are my requirements
1) 100% reliable
2) concealble in a pocket holster or perhaps an ankle rig (I take off my coat at work, and can't be seen armed at the water cooler, or even a shoulder holster for that matter!)
3) sufficient stopping power

ok, I currently have a Glock 26 which may very well be the perfect choice, also I have a Beretta Model 21 (.22)

ideally I would love to carry the Beretta, because I love the light weight
HOWEVER, .22 is obviously not ideal, altough I believe that it would put down the perp (Hinckley ring a bell?), also, the Beretta is picky with ammo, and although I know it likes hot rounds it, it is still prone to jamming

the Glock is probably a great choice, although it is a little heavy in the pocket

anyhoo, let's hear what you have to say...

I am considering perhaps a Model 340PD Revolver (the lightest .357)

whatta ya'll think?

ripley16 · November 5th, 2009, 06:51 PM

When I have to conceal under difficult conditions, I carry my tiny Seecamp LWS32. Very reliable, very concealable in a pocket, on a ankle or even on a belt...IWB.

roadrash · November 5th, 2009, 07:03 PM

I am thinking 642/442

Stevew · November 5th, 2009, 07:07 PM

Any of the S&W alloy frame revolvers with shrouded hammer or Ruger LCR.

1980Maico440 · November 5th, 2009, 07:18 PM

sig 232 in a thunderwear. all day comfort standing or sitting. pretty fast, very secure.
what bulge? :-)
dont all lawyers have a big package?

Thumper · November 5th, 2009, 07:27 PM

I am very happy with my lightweight J Frame... a 340CT.

Lots of carry options because of it's light weight. I have carried it in an ankle holster, SmartCarry, pocket holster (pictured) and IWB.

harley2007 · November 5th, 2009, 07:33 PM

I would suggest a revolver (642 or LCR) or a single stack 9MM like a Kahr PM9 or similar...or even a LCP if you are ok going to a 380 ACP.

kingdaddyoh · November 5th, 2009, 07:36 PM

I vote for the Ruger LCP. Easily the handiest piece I own. Accurate too. Shown here with a D.M. Bullard pocket holster.

Here is is next to a S&W 642

For comparison, next to a Buckmark dipped in TacSol

Gideon · November 5th, 2009, 07:42 PM

S&W J frame with .38 specials or Kahr PM9 depending on which would fit your pants the best. Big difference between pocket carry in dress pants versus dockers versus jeans. Go to the store and try them on for size in the cloths you wear most often.

If neither of these will work, then you may want to consider a .380 like the ruger LCP although I think the .380 is sub-par for SD caliber.

Same considerations for dress pants that tend to be lighter and more revealing than heavier fabrics. I would think a J frame under suit pants would stick out like a sore thumb and no one wears a cell phone on their ankle.

If you make good money and don't mind working out picky ammo choices the Roghbourgh (sp?) R9 might be a good choice. Personally I think they're too much money and they are reported to be very picky on ammo. I can't imagine shooting such a small 9mm and I think even a PM9 is going to have quite a bit of muzzle flip.

Out of the whole bunch I'd probably try to make the 642 work in a pocket holster. I do know the Ruger LCP in .380 will carry in a pocket better because it's flatter and more naturally squared than the buldge of a revo's cylinder.

Good Luck

oneshot · November 5th, 2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevew

Any of the S&W alloy frame revolvers with shrouded hammer or Ruger LCR.

Ditto!!!^^^^

"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." Ted Nugent

November 5th, 2009, 06:43 PM	#1
matisyahu New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3	You pick the gun By way of introduction, I am a former police officer, now an attorney, and I wear a suit every day. Often I go to courts where I have to luck up my piece with the court officers or in my car. These are my requirements 1) 100% reliable 2) concealble in a pocket holster or perhaps an ankle rig (I take off my coat at work, and can't be seen armed at the water cooler, or even a shoulder holster for that matter!) 3) sufficient stopping power ok, I currently have a Glock 26 which may very well be the perfect choice, also I have a Beretta Model 21 (.22) ideally I would love to carry the Beretta, because I love the light weight HOWEVER, .22 is obviously not ideal, altough I believe that it would put down the perp (Hinckley ring a bell?), also, the Beretta is picky with ammo, and although I know it likes hot rounds it, it is still prone to jamming the Glock is probably a great choice, although it is a little heavy in the pocket anyhoo, let's hear what you have to say... I am considering perhaps a Model 340PD Revolver (the lightest .357) whatta ya'll think? Last edited by matisyahu; November 5th, 2009 at 07:46 PM..

November 5th, 2009, 07:07 PM	#4
Stevew Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 335	Any of the S&W alloy frame revolvers with shrouded hammer or Ruger LCR. __________________ Glock 22, GP100, S&W mod 60, Colt Delta Elite, Colt Govt 380, Ruger Single Six, Ruger Bearcat, Colt New Police

November 5th, 2009, 07:18 PM	#5
1980Maico440 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 65	sig 232 in a thunderwear. all day comfort standing or sitting. pretty fast, very secure. what bulge? :-) dont all lawyers have a big package? __________________ I won't stop racing when I get old, I will get old when I stop racing NRA Life, Master Mason, Jack-of-All-Trades (Master of None)

November 5th, 2009, 07:27 PM	#6
Thumper VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 5,590	I am very happy with my lightweight J Frame... a 340CT. Lots of carry options because of it's light weight. I have carried it in an ankle holster, SmartCarry, pocket holster (pictured) and IWB. __________________ USMC 1968-1971 ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell! *"Don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things!"*

November 5th, 2009, 07:33 PM	#7
harley2007 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 537	I would suggest a revolver (642 or LCR) or a single stack 9MM like a Kahr PM9 or similar...or even a LCP if you are ok going to a 380 ACP. __________________ I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!

November 5th, 2009, 06:51 PM	#2
ripley16 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Quantico area, Virginia Posts: 665	When I have to conceal under difficult conditions, I carry my tiny Seecamp LWS32. Very reliable, very concealable in a pocket, on a ankle or even on a belt...IWB.

November 5th, 2009, 07:03 PM	#3
roadrash Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Transition Posts: 156	I am thinking 642/442

November 5th, 2009, 07:36 PM	#8
kingdaddyoh Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 305	I vote for the Ruger LCP. Easily the handiest piece I own. Accurate too. Shown here with a D.M. Bullard pocket holster. Here is is next to a S&W 642 For comparison, next to a Buckmark dipped in TacSol __________________ Ain't no fun when the rabbit has a gun!

November 5th, 2009, 07:42 PM	#9
Gideon Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,209	S&W J frame with .38 specials or Kahr PM9 depending on which would fit your pants the best. Big difference between pocket carry in dress pants versus dockers versus jeans. Go to the store and try them on for size in the cloths you wear most often. If neither of these will work, then you may want to consider a .380 like the ruger LCP although I think the .380 is sub-par for SD caliber. Same considerations for dress pants that tend to be lighter and more revealing than heavier fabrics. I would think a J frame under suit pants would stick out like a sore thumb and no one wears a cell phone on their ankle. If you make good money and don't mind working out picky ammo choices the Roghbourgh (sp?) R9 might be a good choice. Personally I think they're too much money and they are reported to be very picky on ammo. I can't imagine shooting such a small 9mm and I think even a PM9 is going to have quite a bit of muzzle flip. Out of the whole bunch I'd probably try to make the 642 work in a pocket holster. I do know the Ruger LCP in .380 will carry in a pocket better because it's flatter and more naturally squared than the buldge of a revo's cylinder. Good Luck

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