more cant = better concealment?

tn_sig · August 9th, 2006, 03:46 PM

Just curious about that. I've got a couple of holsters in mind and one appears to have more cant than the other. So does more cant = better concealment?

plblark · August 9th, 2006, 03:56 PM

For me, depends on placement and handgun.

The balance is between concealment, placement, and accessibility. It just so happens that an extreme forward cant (>= 30 degrees) works very well for me. I can getto it seated or standing, it blends into my waistline and it's comfortable. I carry a full size 1911 most days.

gregarat · August 9th, 2006, 04:11 PM

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For me, depends on placement and handgun.

The balance is between concealment, placement, and accessibility. It just so happens that an extreme forward cant (>= 30 degrees) works very well for me. I can getto it seated or standing, it blends into my waistline and it's comfortable. I carry a full size 1911 most days.

+1 for me.

tn_sig · August 9th, 2006, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by plblark

For me, depends on placement and handgun.

The balance is between concealment, placement, and accessibility. It just so happens that an extreme forward cant (>= 30 degrees) works very well for me. I can getto it seated or standing, it blends into my waistline and it's comfortable. I carry a full size 1911 most days.

I have a ctac and with some suggestions by others I reversed the tabs on it to increase the cant and I noticed that it conceals better. I'm looking for a leather holster for the same gun and I'm not sure if I should go with the holster that appears to have more cant...

Redneck Repairs · August 9th, 2006, 04:19 PM

You can get away with more kant if you wear the holster further back , Ie... going from 3:00 to 4 or even 5 ( right handed ) for a severe rake holster . If you wear a radical kant too far foreward you have to really break the wrist over to get a good grip on the gun if its even possible .

Just something to keep in mind when balancing concealment ~vs~ accessibility .

Gary Brommeland · August 9th, 2006, 04:52 PM

Howdy!
An increased rake does allow the holster/firearm to be worn further back, and still get a proper firing grip and a nice, smooth draw stroke.
The advantage of wearing it further to the rear (4:30-5:00, more or less) is that there is a natural "hollow" in a man's anatomy right over the kidneys. A well designed holster will take advantage of that spot and tuck the grip right up into it. The result will be much better concealment, while still being very comfortable and offering excellent draw characteristics.
I dunno if this helps or not, but it's my .02. Good luck!

INTJ · August 9th, 2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Brommeland

The result will be much better concealment, while still being very comfortable and offering excellent draw characteristics.

I'm gonna PM you. Can you make my XD-45 Service disappear under dress business suits?

P95Carry · August 9th, 2006, 05:20 PM

I am a cant fan - and depending on gun and rig - anything from 10º to 20º is most useful. It sure for me helps the butt from printing at rear if bending a bit and also facilitates my draw.

tn_sig · August 9th, 2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by P95Carry

I am a cant fan - and depending on gun and rig - anything from 10º to 20º is most useful. It sure for me helps the butt from printing at rear if bending a bit and also facilitates my draw.

Thank you everyone for the responses so far...

I was having problems with the butt of the gun printing on my ctac so that's why I reversed the tabs. It brought the gun forward and closer to me... I have the gun sitting at about 4-4:30.

ELCruisr · August 9th, 2006, 05:42 PM

20 to 25 degrees works for me with a 1911. Usually at 4 o'clock.

August 9th, 2006, 03:46 PM	#1
tn_sig Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: East TN Posts: 61	more cant = better concealment? Just curious about that. I've got a couple of holsters in mind and one appears to have more cant than the other. So does more cant = better concealment?

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Redneck Repairs VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,141	You can get away with more kant if you wear the holster further back , Ie... going from 3:00 to 4 or even 5 ( right handed ) for a severe rake holster . If you wear a radical kant too far foreward you have to really break the wrist over to get a good grip on the gun if its even possible . Just something to keep in mind when balancing concealment ~vs~ accessibility . __________________ Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life . We only begin to understand folks after we stop and think . Criminals are looking for victims, not opponents.

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P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,468	I am a cant fan - and depending on gun and rig - anything from 10º to 20º is most useful. It sure for me helps the butt from printing at rear if bending a bit and also facilitates my draw. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

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ELCruisr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 2,071	20 to 25 degrees works for me with a 1911. Usually at 4 o'clock. __________________ If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. ~ Thomas J. Watson, Jr.

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August 9th, 2006, 03:56 PM	#2
plblark Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 284	For me, depends on placement and handgun. The balance is between concealment, placement, and accessibility. It just so happens that an extreme forward cant (>= 30 degrees) works very well for me. I can getto it seated or standing, it blends into my waistline and it's comfortable. I carry a full size 1911 most days.

August 9th, 2006, 04:52 PM	#6
Gary Brommeland Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,426	Howdy! An increased rake does allow the holster/firearm to be worn further back, and still get a proper firing grip and a nice, smooth draw stroke. The advantage of wearing it further to the rear (4:30-5:00, more or less) is that there is a natural "hollow" in a man's anatomy right over the kidneys. A well designed holster will take advantage of that spot and tuck the grip right up into it. The result will be much better concealment, while still being very comfortable and offering excellent draw characteristics. I dunno if this helps or not, but it's my .02. Good luck!