wingchun

I've been using an IWB for work. They have since decided that they want us to use a holster with a retention strap or device.

They=my boss and other people who are clueless . I do private security in a 950,000 sq.' condo complex in a downtown area,many private vendors, offices and campus areas for MSU and Ferris. One big problem is that there is a bar in the lobby,bad,bad, many conflicts of intersest. In the past we've had many drug stings and prostitution busts. This is the mood of the building, drugs, money, fun,fun party land. There is alot of money, nice cars , flashy people. The surrounding area is very poor so we get alot of problems with theft and vagrants, not to mention the domestic problems inside the building. The fun part is I work third shift ,alone with no back up. Except for the under funded city pd, who have saved my butt a few times butt I can't count on them all the time as they are very overloaded with our growing city's new problems.

Does anyone use a strap on thier carry rig ? Does it slow your draw or re-holster, does it get in the way?

I was looking at Bianchi's new retention system that doesn't require a strap. This seems to solve the problem but I'm not sure if I really like something that close to my trigger, I think it locks on to the trigger gaurd. Does anyone know anything about this holster?

I do get into and brake up alot of fights at work. I am very concerned about someone getting my pistol. In the middle of the contact some people have discovered my pistol. Normally it's a wake up call out of thier drunken stupidity as to how serious thier actions could be. Sooner or later someone will try to get it away.

I'm not saying that a strap could really provide alot of security but it could give one a little piece of mind. But in this peace of mind does one slow thier draw thereby hindering reaction time? Any holster ideas? Combinations of good ,smooth draw with retention ability?

Again, I thank everyone. It's nice to pick your brains.

Anubis

I am like most frequenters of this forum: private citizen whose priorities include avoiding situations and places where confrontations are likely. Probably most of us don't like retention gadgets, relying on total concealment so no one knows it's there to grab.

Sound like you don't have the option of avoiding confrontations, however. If I were forced to be frequently involved in disagreements or fights, I would probably want a retention device. I would figure that the probability of someone grabbing it would be much higher that the probability of my drawing it.

Good luck with the job!

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Eric Larsen

Well I agree with the last poster. MOST CCW Permit holders really dont need a thumb break or other retention device but in your situation I may rethink that. If I were you...Id look at LEO style rigs....single or double retention. They have some very cool stuff out there.

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cagueits

I assume you are licensed security officer in your jurisdiction; I would suggest Safariland's SLS line of concealment holsters (from the IWB carry method, sounds as if you do no use a duty belt) or their duty belt counterparts. It takes a little bit of practice to get the gun out of the holster; once you get the muscle memory going, weapon presentation becomes a snap.

Try getting some training in weapon retention, your jurisdiction’s licensing agency should be able to provide you a list of training centers in your area.

srfl

I'm a fed LEO; most agencies (like mine) mandate a thumbbreak on our holsters. As such, I have several holsters for my duty SIGARMS P229 with thumbbreaks....that includes a Ted Block LFI IWB holster with such a device.

As far as I'm concerned, a thumbbreak offers very little, if anything at all, as a retention device. With that in mind, I requested authorization to use a Blackhawk OWB holster with the SERPA retention device which would offer a level (level II I believe) of security retention. The response, according to "black and white" policy was "no," it doesn't have a thumbbreak and our duty holsters must have them....oh well.

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torrejon224

Check out a Bianchi CarryLok. Comes in three models, has a fast draw but is secure from a grab attempt. Think this would be the ideal solution for you.

rocky

I have used both the carryloc and the BH serpa. Both seem to add a extra level of retention to the gun, while not slowing the draw.

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retsupt99

for me. I've had a few, but I didn't like them AT ALL! I rely on good concealment...it works for me!

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wingchun

Thanks for the advice!
Rocky the carryloc release looks like it could be tripped on accident. Does this seem to be the case ? If it holds the gun tight this may be my next holster.
When I carry outside of work I don't use a strap. I keep my pistol hidden well.
As far as weapons retention training goes I train with some of my mma buddies. I use an airsoft gun and let them do thier best to get it away from me. Believe me, they get violent , these guys got some ego problems.

QKShooter

Well, when I went to the Alleg Cnty Courthouse a while back I must have seen at least 30 BH Serpa type Carbon Fiber retention holsters attached to various LEOs.

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