Kydex pancake?!

absit · October 23rd, 2006, 02:12 AM

Why doesn't anyone make one? Why can't anyone make an OWB kydex holster that conceals as well as a leather pancake? The material is thinner and more rigid, am I missing something? I'm no scientician but I know there'd be a market for it (me)! The ONLY reason I use leather is because kydex and OWB don't mix for light cover garments. Leather looks and smells nice but no one's looking or smelling so I'd much prefer the speed (and cost, generally) of kydex.

N.M. Edmands · October 23rd, 2006, 04:02 AM

Fist Inc. may have what your looking for. "Kydex High ride"
http://www.fist-inc.com/

steve63 · October 23rd, 2006, 06:22 AM

That kydex high ride is an ugly thing. Does anybody know anything about that holster. I would also like something flatter made of kydex.I like my Uncle Mikes but is hard to coneal unless your wearing a jacket or coat.

KravJeff · October 23rd, 2006, 06:30 AM

Ditto my Blackhawk CQB ... I've been bit@%ing on a couple of other threads re: my carry choice and the difficulty I've had concealing well and being comfortable ... I had no idea that most of us will end up with a box of holsters before we find what works for us!

absit · October 23rd, 2006, 07:31 AM

I've found leather that works, but I wonder if the holster makes could chime in on why kydex can't be made in the same style?

It looks like the FIST "HIGH RIDE" is that style, why isn't it more popular? It's ugly, sure, but how does it PERFORM? For me it looks awefully high, and I have longer arms. Has anyone tried the "DAVE SPAULDING"?

rocky · October 23rd, 2006, 07:57 AM

I just made my first proto type pancake in kydex. Once the fine tuning is done I may start offering it for sale. Look at Galco's site too. I know they make a belt slide kydex at least.
As for the BH Serpa, it rides well, holds great, but I do need a cover garment to conceal it too.

Eric Larsen · October 23rd, 2006, 09:01 AM

It seems that a Kydex pancake would work well with very little material where the belt slots are. Kydex doesnt have any flex and the end of the loops that are on the inside of the belt..on the very ends of the holster would have to be thin to be comfortable. Thats the only thing I can think of that would be a problem.
The Belt slide/Askins Avenger style is less prone to this as the front loop is an actual loop.....which is flat against the skin.
Rocky......Id like to see what you come up with....hope it works very well for you.
Shoot well and god bless

PhillyGlock23 · October 23rd, 2006, 11:55 AM

Also, one of the great things about Fist is that they can make any of there holster into kydex, including their #9 basic pancake holster. If you look through their page, they talk about a "hybrid" holster where they can even put kydex on the inside and leather on the outside.

Greg Dunn · October 23rd, 2006, 01:47 PM

I've been pondering the same thing, why is there not a pancake made of kydex yet, all the other styles have been made in plastic.

I would like to see a prototype of one, it would be very interesting.

rocky · October 23rd, 2006, 02:04 PM

I have been working on it. this 1 was ordered by a close friend. Will see if I can get some pics before I ship.

October 23rd, 2006, 02:12 AM	#1
absit Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Davenport, IA Posts: 110	Kydex pancake?! Why doesn't anyone make one? Why can't anyone make an OWB kydex holster that conceals as well as a leather pancake? The material is thinner and more rigid, am I missing something? I'm no scientician but I know there'd be a market for it (me)! The ONLY reason I use leather is because kydex and OWB don't mix for light cover garments. Leather looks and smells nice but no one's looking or smelling so I'd much prefer the speed (and cost, generally) of kydex. __________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

October 23rd, 2006, 04:02 AM	#2
N.M. Edmands Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Yavapai County, Arizona Posts: 128	Fist Inc. may have what your looking for. "Kydex High ride" http://www.fist-inc.com/ __________________ Nat

October 23rd, 2006, 07:31 AM	#5
absit Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Davenport, IA Posts: 110	I've found leather that works, but I wonder if the holster makes could chime in on why kydex can't be made in the same style? It looks like the FIST "HIGH RIDE" is that style, why isn't it more popular? It's ugly, sure, but how does it PERFORM? For me it looks awefully high, and I have longer arms. Has anyone tried the "DAVE SPAULDING"? __________________ All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

October 23rd, 2006, 07:57 AM	#6
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 13,085	I just made my first proto type pancake in kydex. Once the fine tuning is done I may start offering it for sale. Look at Galco's site too. I know they make a belt slide kydex at least. As for the BH Serpa, it rides well, holds great, but I do need a cover garment to conceal it too. __________________ "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson Nemo Me Impune Lacesset Link to my kydex builds:http://rocknloadkydex.blogspot.com/

October 23rd, 2006, 09:01 AM	#7
Eric Larsen Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: WoodsX Ut Posts: 769	It seems that a Kydex pancake would work well with very little material where the belt slots are. Kydex doesnt have any flex and the end of the loops that are on the inside of the belt..on the very ends of the holster would have to be thin to be comfortable. Thats the only thing I can think of that would be a problem. The Belt slide/Askins Avenger style is less prone to this as the front loop is an actual loop.....which is flat against the skin. Rocky......Id like to see what you come up with....hope it works very well for you. Shoot well and god bless __________________ If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice..........Rush

October 23rd, 2006, 06:22 AM	#3
steve63 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: oklahoma Posts: 164	That kydex high ride is an ugly thing. Does anybody know anything about that holster. I would also like something flatter made of kydex.I like my Uncle Mikes but is hard to coneal unless your wearing a jacket or coat.

October 23rd, 2006, 06:30 AM	#4
KravJeff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 38	Ditto my Blackhawk CQB ... I've been bit@%ing on a couple of other threads re: my carry choice and the difficulty I've had concealing well and being comfortable ... I had no idea that most of us will end up with a box of holsters before we find what works for us!

October 23rd, 2006, 11:55 AM	#8
PhillyGlock23 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 'burbs of Philly Posts: 73	Also, one of the great things about Fist is that they can make any of there holster into kydex, including their #9 basic pancake holster. If you look through their page, they talk about a "hybrid" holster where they can even put kydex on the inside and leather on the outside.

October 23rd, 2006, 01:47 PM	#9
Greg Dunn Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 181	I've been pondering the same thing, why is there not a pancake made of kydex yet, all the other styles have been made in plastic. I would like to see a prototype of one, it would be very interesting. __________________ Ranger Gunleather If light rails were needed on handguns John Browning would have included it on the 1911.

October 23rd, 2006, 02:04 PM	#10
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 13,085	I have been working on it. this 1 was ordered by a close friend. Will see if I can get some pics before I ship. __________________ "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson Nemo Me Impune Lacesset Link to my kydex builds:http://rocknloadkydex.blogspot.com/

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