Holster, Belt & Mag Holder?

Anaconda44 · December 19th, 2006, 12:34 AM

I'm planning on up grading to a newer type of holster as per my other thread and I have another question.....

How many of you have the holster, belt and a mag holder? Do you wear all 3 all the time?

I just used to wear my IWB with just a thick belt and no spare mag. On occasion I just had a extra mag in a pants pocket. I now feel it is time to do it right and get everything from the same vender. I'm leaning on getting a OWB mag holder instead of a IWB from what I've read here.

Blackeagle · December 19th, 2006, 01:24 AM

All three all the time (the holster and the mag pouch would be pretty useless without the belt

). I carry in a Comp-Tac C-T.A.C. on a Wilderness Tactical Instructor Belt. One or two extra mags in a kydex mag holder on the weak side.

madecov · December 19th, 2006, 01:26 AM

My re load carrier is a Galco "COP" mag cuff case. I wear it off duty.
My holster is a Laredo Defender by K&D and I usually beat up a G&G or Galco belt.

I also have an incredibly beautiful belt made by K&D but it's so nice I really don't want to scuff it up

Gary Brommeland · December 19th, 2006, 11:17 AM

Howdy and welcome aboard!

We advise our clients to ALWAYS carry a spare mag, and to do so in a mag pouch (it doesn't have to be one of ours as long as it works properly, but always, always, always carry one).

Why? Because statistically, most auto pistol malfunctions are caused either by dirt or a magazine related failure. If you keep your carry gun clean and properly lubed, then the odds are overwhelming that any malf that you experience will be mag related. The only cure for a bad magazine is another mag. Keep in mind that your super whiz bang blastomatic depends upon a $12 (wholesale) piece of sheet metal to operate properly, and sometimes things made that inexpensively do tend to have quality control issues. I have either experienced myself, or seen first hand three instances of a broken mag spring (two cases) and jammed follower (single case) that occurred with OEM factory mags in good shape that occurred spontainously and without warning. The result was that these individuals had been carrying a single shot pistol around for months since changing out mags & ammo. One of those individuals happened to be me, and it was a startling thing to experience a "click" on round 2, when there should have been a "bang". (Fortunately, I was just burning off old carry ammo, rather than actually defending myself.)

Secondly, while most gunfights are over in less than 4 rounds, your assailant may have a buddy (or three). Multiple attacker type engagements are becoming more and more common. One of my mentors was Evan Marshall and he drilled into my head that "there's no such thing as too much ammo in a gunfight". Since he has survived (literally) a dozen or more gunfights in his time with Detroit PD, I'll take his word on it.

In short, I know that I'd feel pretty stupid laying on the ground bleeding to death because I didn't want to carry a spare mag.

Also keep in mind that no holster will function properly without a gun belt. No matter where you bought it or how much you spent on it, if a belt was not engineered to be a gunbelt and built accordingly, it ain't a gunbelt and will not perform as one.

You'll also find that differing makers have differing ideas as to what constitutes a given width, and holsters from one maker may or may not fit properly and work well with another maker's belt. If you already have a decent gunbelt, tell whoever makes your holster who made it. If you don't yet have a gunbelt, my recommendation is that you order one from the same shop that made your holster and mag pouch.

I hope all this helps. Good luck!

LTPhoon · December 19th, 2006, 11:59 AM

I carry my P229 in a Sam Andrews Paddle Style OWB with a thumbsnap and a well-crafted high quality single mag carrier made by Sam's then 9-year-old son (!). I hang this on a Beltman 1.5" tapered bullhide belt. The entire ensemble, from pistol grip to belt tip, is finished in black the better to enhance concealment, rides nice and firm and secure. Then I feel well dressed without wearing a tie...

www.thebeltman.net
www.andrewsleather.com

torrejon224 · December 19th, 2006, 03:36 PM

Always, sometimes a single pouch, somtimes double. I also have two Milt Sparks belts, a Kramer sharkskin belt and a Rafters S sharkskin belt.

Rock and Glock · December 19th, 2006, 04:08 PM

I'll be rigging up with three matching pieces pretty soon, from:

High Performance Concealment Systems for the Professional

http://brommelandgunleather.com

I'm just waiting quietly, cause good things happen to those that have a lot of patience.......

BTW: I think a complete rig from ANY of our member leather artists a great combo to carry. (Edited Tuesday)

December 19th, 2006, 12:34 AM	#1
Anaconda44 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: CT Posts: 20	Holster, Belt & Mag Holder? I'm planning on up grading to a newer type of holster as per my other thread and I have another question..... How many of you have the holster, belt and a mag holder? Do you wear all 3 all the time? I just used to wear my IWB with just a thick belt and no spare mag. On occasion I just had a extra mag in a pants pocket. I now feel it is time to do it right and get everything from the same vender. I'm leaning on getting a OWB mag holder instead of a IWB from what I've read here.

December 19th, 2006, 01:26 AM	#3
madecov Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 141	My re load carrier is a Galco "COP" mag cuff case. I wear it off duty. My holster is a Laredo Defender by K&D and I usually beat up a G&G or Galco belt. I also have an incredibly beautiful belt made by K&D but it's so nice I really don't want to scuff it up __________________ There are no problems in life too large to be handled by the use of small arms and high explosives In god we trust, all others are suspects $10.00 transfers in Houston, Texas

December 19th, 2006, 11:17 AM	#4
Gary Brommeland Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,426	Howdy and welcome aboard! We advise our clients to ALWAYS carry a spare mag, and to do so in a mag pouch (it doesn't have to be one of ours as long as it works properly, but always, always, always carry one). Why? Because statistically, most auto pistol malfunctions are caused either by dirt or a magazine related failure. If you keep your carry gun clean and properly lubed, then the odds are overwhelming that any malf that you experience will be mag related. The only cure for a bad magazine is another mag. Keep in mind that your super whiz bang blastomatic depends upon a $12 (wholesale) piece of sheet metal to operate properly, and sometimes things made that inexpensively do tend to have quality control issues. I have either experienced myself, or seen first hand three instances of a broken mag spring (two cases) and jammed follower (single case) that occurred with OEM factory mags in good shape that occurred spontainously and without warning. The result was that these individuals had been carrying a single shot pistol around for months since changing out mags & ammo. One of those individuals happened to be me, and it was a startling thing to experience a "click" on round 2, when there should have been a "bang". (Fortunately, I was just burning off old carry ammo, rather than actually defending myself.) Secondly, while most gunfights are over in less than 4 rounds, your assailant may have a buddy (or three). Multiple attacker type engagements are becoming more and more common. One of my mentors was Evan Marshall and he drilled into my head that "there's no such thing as too much ammo in a gunfight". Since he has survived (literally) a dozen or more gunfights in his time with Detroit PD, I'll take his word on it. In short, I know that I'd feel pretty stupid laying on the ground bleeding to death because I didn't want to carry a spare mag. Also keep in mind that no holster will function properly without a gun belt. No matter where you bought it or how much you spent on it, if a belt was not engineered to be a gunbelt and built accordingly, it ain't a gunbelt and will not perform as one. You'll also find that differing makers have differing ideas as to what constitutes a given width, and holsters from one maker may or may not fit properly and work well with another maker's belt. If you already have a decent gunbelt, tell whoever makes your holster who made it. If you don't yet have a gunbelt, my recommendation is that you order one from the same shop that made your holster and mag pouch. I hope all this helps. Good luck! Last edited by Gary Brommeland; December 19th, 2006 at 11:23 AM.. Reason: typo

December 19th, 2006, 04:08 PM	#7
Rock and Glock VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado at 9,500' Posts: 4,423	I'll be rigging up with three matching pieces pretty soon, from: High Performance Concealment Systems for the Professional http://brommelandgunleather.com I'm just waiting quietly, cause good things happen to those that have a lot of patience....... BTW: I think a complete rig from ANY of our member leather artists a great combo to carry. (Edited Tuesday) __________________ Richard NRA Life Member *"Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything."* Harry S. Truman Last edited by Rock and Glock; December 19th, 2006 at 11:46 PM..

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December 19th, 2006, 01:24 AM	#2
Blackeagle Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,992	All three all the time (the holster and the mag pouch would be pretty useless without the belt ). I carry in a Comp-Tac C-T.A.C. on a Wilderness Tactical Instructor Belt. One or two extra mags in a kydex mag holder on the weak side.

December 19th, 2006, 11:59 AM	#5
LTPhoon Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Northeastern U.S. Posts: 244	I carry my P229 in a Sam Andrews Paddle Style OWB with a thumbsnap and a well-crafted high quality single mag carrier made by Sam's then 9-year-old son (!). I hang this on a Beltman 1.5" tapered bullhide belt. The entire ensemble, from pistol grip to belt tip, is finished in black the better to enhance concealment, rides nice and firm and secure. Then I feel well dressed without wearing a tie... www.thebeltman.net www.andrewsleather.com

December 19th, 2006, 03:36 PM	#6
torrejon224 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 674	Always, sometimes a single pouch, somtimes double. I also have two Milt Sparks belts, a Kramer sharkskin belt and a Rafters S sharkskin belt.