Garrity In-Cognito Deluxe vs. Sparks VM2

ozshadow · April 17th, 2007, 06:05 PM

I was just wondering what users thought about the differences between the Garrity In-Cognito Deluxe as compared to the Milt Sparks VM2.

Fit and comfort ? Thickness ? Other notable differences ?

I notice far more details and extra stitching in the Garrity model. Anyone tried the Sparks kydex clips on the Garrity version ?

sojourner · April 17th, 2007, 10:56 PM

I have the garrity in-cognito deluxe (H&K P2000) and absolutely love it. Thought about the VM2 due to recommendations, but ordered the in-cognito deluxe. I couldn't be happier.

torrejon224 · April 18th, 2007, 02:18 PM

I have both and to me the only difference is the suede backing that Matt uses. They are both excellent examples of that style (VMII) IWB holsters.

Thumper · April 18th, 2007, 07:43 PM

I'm a big VM-II fan and have several but I just ordered one of Mark's In-Cognito holsters because it looks so darn good!

I'll report back in 5 months!

Gary Brommeland · April 18th, 2007, 08:17 PM

FWIW, I'd highly recommend the IN-Cognito.

ozshadow · April 18th, 2007, 08:32 PM

Well, if it matters, I just ordered an In-Cognito Deluxe from him and turned down a brand new VM2 that I could have had immediately.

I ordered the Deluxe version, but I am torn over the idea. I really love the look of the plain, boned leather. It's just beautiful. The backing and kydex cover up a lot of this work, but I am hoping the functionality of these options will outweigh it.

DeepHelmet · April 19th, 2007, 01:30 AM

I have them both for a 5" 1911 and can honestly say I would never sell either one of them. Get them both and spend the next year deciding which one you like

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For clarification, I have the regular In-Cognito in cowhide trimmed with stingray across the top. It's not the deluxe so I can't comment on the suede or kydex. The VM-II stays open a bit more when the gun is drawn, but a one handed reholster is equally doable with either one of them. They ride about the same on the belt, I haven't noticed a big difference. The belt loops on the In-C rotate on the snaps and the VM-II's loops don't. The In_C covers more of the gun above the belt than the VM-II. There are some other differences but none of them make one better than the other to me. Here's a picture of them both on a belt so you can see how they ride. Left to right is the Alessi PCW, In-Cognito, and VM-II. Good luck, you can't go wrong with either one of them.

April 17th, 2007, 06:05 PM	#1
ozshadow Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 114	Garrity In-Cognito Deluxe vs. Sparks VM2 I was just wondering what users thought about the differences between the Garrity In-Cognito Deluxe as compared to the Milt Sparks VM2. Fit and comfort ? Thickness ? Other notable differences ? I notice far more details and extra stitching in the Garrity model. Anyone tried the Sparks kydex clips on the Garrity version ?

April 18th, 2007, 07:43 PM	#4
Thumper VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 5,590	I'm a big VM-II fan and have several but I just ordered one of Mark's In-Cognito holsters because it looks so darn good! I'll report back in 5 months! __________________ USMC 1968-1971 ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell! *"Don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things!"*

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April 17th, 2007, 10:56 PM	#2
sojourner Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: PA Posts: 1,035	I have the garrity in-cognito deluxe (H&K P2000) and absolutely love it. Thought about the VM2 due to recommendations, but ordered the in-cognito deluxe. I couldn't be happier.

April 18th, 2007, 02:18 PM	#3
torrejon224 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 678	I have both and to me the only difference is the suede backing that Matt uses. They are both excellent examples of that style (VMII) IWB holsters.

April 18th, 2007, 08:17 PM	#5
Gary Brommeland Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,426	FWIW, I'd highly recommend the IN-Cognito.

April 18th, 2007, 08:32 PM	#6
ozshadow Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 114	Well, if it matters, I just ordered an In-Cognito Deluxe from him and turned down a brand new VM2 that I could have had immediately. I ordered the Deluxe version, but I am torn over the idea. I really love the look of the plain, boned leather. It's just beautiful. The backing and kydex cover up a lot of this work, but I am hoping the functionality of these options will outweigh it.

April 19th, 2007, 01:30 AM	#7
DeepHelmet Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 34	I have them both for a 5" 1911 and can honestly say I would never sell either one of them. Get them both and spend the next year deciding which one you like . For clarification, I have the regular In-Cognito in cowhide trimmed with stingray across the top. It's not the deluxe so I can't comment on the suede or kydex. The VM-II stays open a bit more when the gun is drawn, but a one handed reholster is equally doable with either one of them. They ride about the same on the belt, I haven't noticed a big difference. The belt loops on the In-C rotate on the snaps and the VM-II's loops don't. The In_C covers more of the gun above the belt than the VM-II. There are some other differences but none of them make one better than the other to me. Here's a picture of them both on a belt so you can see how they ride. Left to right is the Alessi PCW, In-Cognito, and VM-II. Good luck, you can't go wrong with either one of them.