Kydex for CCW ? Is it too loud ?

Shizzlemah · May 25th, 2007, 11:41 PM

Hi guys.
I just got a Kydex holster for my G23 and like it. Holds well, comfy, fast to clear.

However, I'm not sure if I would like it for CCW. It really makes a definite "clunk" when removing the firearm. There may be times when it's important to unholster quietly - like when a BG is not directing his threats/actions at you directly. That noise seems to be a bit of a giveaway. Even if the BG doesn't know what that "clunk" is, it may draw attention and I never like attention.

Thoughts on this ? Valid concern ? No big deal ? Am I just a luddite leather guy ?

P95Carry · May 25th, 2007, 11:45 PM

I had not considered that I admit .. I used a Fobus way back when P95 was my carry and it did need what I called an ''inertial'' draw ... fast and snappy - with noise!.

So yeah - could be the sound aspect is significant and of some importance. Yes, I think I'd agree a valid concern - seeing as a draw from leather is effectively silent. One never knows!!

Smith&Wessonfan · May 25th, 2007, 11:48 PM

I don't know what brand of kydex holster you have, but my Comp Tac is silent if you draw slowly.

The weapon needs to come out lightning fast in 99.9999999% of the situations I would ever find myself in. Kydex excels in that regard, and I would not consider the situations that fall in the .0000001% where leather may be better.

Smitty53 · May 25th, 2007, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smith&Wessonfan

I don't know what brand of kydex holster you have, but my Comp Tac is silent if you draw slowly.

+1
I have a C-Tac for my g23 and its a great holster. I carry it 8-10 hrs a day and I can never notice it.

retsupt99 · May 26th, 2007, 12:11 AM

Noise? Not a problem...
I'm not going to be pulling my weapon from the holster unless there is going to be a lot of noise...the holster 'squeak' won't be noticed...

OMO

Stay armed...stay safe!

ret

rocky · May 26th, 2007, 01:22 AM

Unless you are not being careful, I don't think the noise will be noticed. My Serpa doesn't seem all that noisy, although the Fobus did make more noise on the draw.

Thumper · May 26th, 2007, 01:59 AM

I'm with retsupt99, everyone will forget the sound your holster makes once they hear you G-23 explode!

sjp2452 · May 26th, 2007, 02:37 AM

I've thought about this as well...drill on slow & silent draws making good use of your thumb to deaden movements (like overcoming the retention "click") but don't worry about it too much. But if it really bothers you, get leather. Better to be completely comfortable & confident than to have a nagging thought always lingering.

CraigJS · May 26th, 2007, 11:13 AM

My Blade Tech can be drawn either way, but even in "noise mode" it isn't very loud. Had a Fobus years ago, what a POS, you couldn't get the gun out without yanking on it and it still wouldn't come out without a struggle.
Be safe..

raytracer · May 26th, 2007, 12:17 PM

Not that this directly applies to the tactical nature of your question, but it's an amusing incident:

A couple weeks ago I was taking a class at an outdoor range. I had active hearing protection on, and since we were outside and in a large group, I had them turned up higher than normal to hear the instructor.

So waiting my turn in the queue behind the firing line, I hear the tell tale clack-click of kydex right behind me. I spin around ready to come down with both feet on the guy behind me for handling his gun behind the line, but he's just standing there, arms crossed.

I realized that it was so dead quiet at that moment that the headphones had amplified the drawstroke of the active shooter 20 some feet away! It was such a normally quiet sound, percieved as so loud, that my brain was convinced it was right on top of me.

Joe

May 25th, 2007, 11:41 PM	#1
Shizzlemah Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 724	Kydex for CCW ? Is it too loud ? Hi guys. I just got a Kydex holster for my G23 and like it. Holds well, comfy, fast to clear. However, I'm not sure if I would like it for CCW. It really makes a definite "clunk" when removing the firearm. There may be times when it's important to unholster quietly - like when a BG is not directing his threats/actions at you directly. That noise seems to be a bit of a giveaway. Even if the BG doesn't know what that "clunk" is, it may draw attention and I never like attention. Thoughts on this ? Valid concern ? No big deal ? Am I just a luddite leather guy ?

May 25th, 2007, 11:45 PM	#2
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,468	I had not considered that I admit .. I used a Fobus way back when P95 was my carry and it did need what I called an ''inertial'' draw ... fast and snappy - with noise!. So yeah - could be the sound aspect is significant and of some importance. Yes, I think I'd agree a valid concern - seeing as a draw from leather is effectively silent. One never knows!! __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

May 26th, 2007, 12:11 AM	#5
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,822	Noise? Not a problem... I'm not going to be pulling my weapon from the holster unless there is going to be a lot of noise...the holster 'squeak' won't be noticed... OMO Stay armed...stay safe! ret __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

May 26th, 2007, 01:22 AM	#6
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 13,083	Unless you are not being careful, I don't think the noise will be noticed. My Serpa doesn't seem all that noisy, although the Fobus did make more noise on the draw. __________________ "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson Nemo Me Impune Lacesset Link to my kydex builds:http://rocknloadkydex.blogspot.com/

May 26th, 2007, 01:59 AM	#7
Thumper VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 5,597	I'm with retsupt99, everyone will forget the sound your holster makes once they hear you G-23 explode! __________________ USMC 1968-1971 ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell! *"Don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things!"*

May 25th, 2007, 11:48 PM	#3
Smith&Wessonfan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 508	I don't know what brand of kydex holster you have, but my Comp Tac is silent if you draw slowly. The weapon needs to come out lightning fast in 99.9999999% of the situations I would ever find myself in. Kydex excels in that regard, and I would not consider the situations that fall in the .0000001% where leather may be better.

May 26th, 2007, 02:37 AM	#8
sjp2452 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 209	I've thought about this as well...drill on slow & silent draws making good use of your thumb to deaden movements (like overcoming the retention "click") but don't worry about it too much. But if it really bothers you, get leather. Better to be completely comfortable & confident than to have a nagging thought always lingering.

May 26th, 2007, 11:13 AM	#9
CraigJS Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 197	My Blade Tech can be drawn either way, but even in "noise mode" it isn't very loud. Had a Fobus years ago, what a POS, you couldn't get the gun out without yanking on it and it still wouldn't come out without a struggle. Be safe..

May 26th, 2007, 12:17 PM	#10
raytracer Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 308	Not that this directly applies to the tactical nature of your question, but it's an amusing incident: A couple weeks ago I was taking a class at an outdoor range. I had active hearing protection on, and since we were outside and in a large group, I had them turned up higher than normal to hear the instructor. So waiting my turn in the queue behind the firing line, I hear the tell tale clack-click of kydex right behind me. I spin around ready to come down with both feet on the guy behind me for handling his gun behind the line, but he's just standing there, arms crossed. I realized that it was so dead quiet at that moment that the headphones had amplified the drawstroke of the active shooter 20 some feet away! It was such a normally quiet sound, percieved as so loud, that my brain was convinced it was right on top of me. Joe

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