My first ever complaint thread...

Echo_Four · June 9th, 2007, 02:41 AM

I was needing a holster for a class I was going to take. I only had an IWB for my Sig 226 so I decided to look around and see what was out there. I didn't want kydex, but with only a couple of weeks lead time, I decided that I would do that if I had to. But, I found Wild Bill's Concealment through a post here, and decided to check them out. They no longer sell custom rigs, and focus only on what they have in stock. I ordered a package from them after being assured that the holster would be shipped as soon as they got payment. That was May 18, and I still don't have the holster. After four weeks, I think it is difficult to claim that things are shipped as quickly as they let on.

Not a real complaint, waiting a month for a holster is nothing. I happily do so on a regular basis. But, if they would have been honest I wouldn't have canceled an order I had with Nate for the same basic design. I'm expecting a holster from him early next week, so it looks as if he may beat them anyway. Just don't order their product if you need it in a rush. I ended up taking the class with a Glock 22 and had a great time. Just wish I would have know it was going to work out like this.

DirtDawg · June 9th, 2007, 03:19 PM

Everytime I order something, belt/holster/mag pouch, I put it into my MS Outlook calendar and put a 'due date' on the high side of the delivery estimate. Then I fugitaboutit.

I figure that holster makers are craftsmen, not businessmen. By not being accurate about delivery times, not answering emails/ph call promptly just serves to irritate guys like me. So I don't usually call.

my .02

kentuckycarry · June 9th, 2007, 08:45 PM

I was told lead time on a holster was 8-10 weeks ( rather not say who), and its been 12 weeks today. I understand they are very busy and I dont feel me calling them is going to speed things up ( even tho I'm about to climb the friggin walls ). Since they told you it would be shipped as soon as payment was recieved, I believe I'd be calling them.

TonyW · June 9th, 2007, 10:16 PM

To me there is a difference between a small, custom leather smith and someplace that sells holsters in bulk. For a place like Brommeland, K&K or Milt Sparks I'll wait for the quality. But someplace that make them generically in bulk the wait is bad. Not sure how Wild Bill's fits in that spectrum, just my general thoughts.

retsupt99 · June 10th, 2007, 12:03 AM

There are a number of Fist holster owners here...
Does Fist deliver good quality, at reasonable prices in 3-5 weeks? Yes they do...

Stay armed...stay safe!

ret

semperfi.45 · June 10th, 2007, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtDawg

Everytime I order something, belt/holster/mag pouch, I put it into my MS Outlook calendar and put a 'due date' on the high side of the delivery estimate. Then I fugitaboutit.

I figure that holster makers are craftsmen, not businessmen. By not being accurate about delivery times, not answering emails/ph call promptly just serves to irritate guys like me. So I don't usually call.

my .02

I agree.

It is what it is and you'll get it when you get it. I would rather my holster be worked on instead of the guy answering stupid "I can't wait any longer" emails and calls. I've been buying custom holsters for quite a while now and, I think most would agree, the wait is always worth it.

Bulman custom holster... $140
Lead time... 26 weeks
Finally getting it...priceless

Of all that I have purchased though, I think Milt Sparks has the perfect form, fit and function.

Echo_Four · June 12th, 2007, 04:40 PM

The problem is he shouldn't be working on my holster. He said that the only things he sells are "In stock" and not made to order any longer. He has lied about the entire situation. It is now 25 days since I placed an order that he said would be shipped immediately and I have nothing. Avoid Wild Bill's Concealment if honesty is something you value- or if you would like to actually receive a product that you pay for. I learned my lesson, Nate will be the only holster maker I deal with in the future. I can't stand liars, and that's what Bill is.

Captain Crunch · June 12th, 2007, 04:57 PM

OK, folks, EchoFour has stated his case succinctly. Nothing more needs to be said.

Thread closed.

June 9th, 2007, 02:41 AM	#1
Echo_Four Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,029	My first ever complaint thread... I was needing a holster for a class I was going to take. I only had an IWB for my Sig 226 so I decided to look around and see what was out there. I didn't want kydex, but with only a couple of weeks lead time, I decided that I would do that if I had to. But, I found Wild Bill's Concealment through a post here, and decided to check them out. They no longer sell custom rigs, and focus only on what they have in stock. I ordered a package from them after being assured that the holster would be shipped as soon as they got payment. That was May 18, and I still don't have the holster. After four weeks, I think it is difficult to claim that things are shipped as quickly as they let on. Not a real complaint, waiting a month for a holster is nothing. I happily do so on a regular basis. But, if they would have been honest I wouldn't have canceled an order I had with Nate for the same basic design. I'm expecting a holster from him early next week, so it looks as if he may beat them anyway. Just don't order their product if you need it in a rush. I ended up taking the class with a Glock 22 and had a great time. Just wish I would have know it was going to work out like this. __________________ "The only people I like besides my wife and children are Marines." - Lt. Col. Oliver North Firearm Facts Christian Warrior Ministries

June 9th, 2007, 03:19 PM	#2
DirtDawg Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sunnyville Posts: 598	Everytime I order something, belt/holster/mag pouch, I put it into my MS Outlook calendar and put a 'due date' on the high side of the delivery estimate. Then I fugitaboutit. I figure that holster makers are craftsmen, not businessmen. By not being accurate about delivery times, not answering emails/ph call promptly just serves to irritate guys like me. So I don't usually call. my .02 __________________ Why is it that you always find things at the last place you looked? Because when you find something-you stop looking-Mooch

June 9th, 2007, 10:16 PM	#4
TonyW Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 771	To me there is a difference between a small, custom leather smith and someplace that sells holsters in bulk. For a place like Brommeland, K&K or Milt Sparks I'll wait for the quality. But someplace that make them generically in bulk the wait is bad. Not sure how Wild Bill's fits in that spectrum, just my general thoughts. __________________ There can be no proper relationship between one who is armed and one who is not; nor is it reasonable to expect that one who is armed will voluntarily obey one who is not, or that the latter will feel secure among servants who are armed. The Prince, Niccolo Machiavelli

June 10th, 2007, 12:03 AM	#5
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,750	I Keep Saying Fist... There are a number of Fist holster owners here... Does Fist deliver good quality, at reasonable prices in 3-5 weeks? Yes they do... Stay armed...stay safe! ret __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

June 12th, 2007, 04:40 PM	#7
Echo_Four Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,029	The problem is he shouldn't be working on my holster. He said that the only things he sells are "In stock" and not made to order any longer. He has lied about the entire situation. It is now 25 days since I placed an order that he said would be shipped immediately and I have nothing. Avoid Wild Bill's Concealment if honesty is something you value- or if you would like to actually receive a product that you pay for. I learned my lesson, Nate will be the only holster maker I deal with in the future. I can't stand liars, and that's what Bill is. __________________ "The only people I like besides my wife and children are Marines." - Lt. Col. Oliver North Firearm Facts Christian Warrior Ministries

June 9th, 2007, 08:45 PM	#3
kentuckycarry VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 2,193	I was told lead time on a holster was 8-10 weeks ( rather not say who), and its been 12 weeks today. I understand they are very busy and I dont feel me calling them is going to speed things up ( even tho I'm about to climb the friggin walls ). Since they told you it would be shipped as soon as payment was recieved, I believe I'd be calling them.

June 12th, 2007, 04:57 PM	#8
Captain Crunch 1943 - 2009 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montana Posts: 10,408	OK, folks, EchoFour has stated his case succinctly. Nothing more needs to be said. Thread closed. __________________ When you’re wounded and left on Afghanistan’s plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains, And go to your God like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling Terry

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