Milt Sparks VMII's for p239 and G19

SiG239 · October 4th, 2007, 12:49 AM

Hello all,

Received my VMII for the glock19 today and just had to share some pictures. I've had the VMII for the p239 for about a month now and the draw on the one for the g19 seems to be rougher than the 239, even when it was brand new also. The VMII has to be the most comfortable holster I have used, distributes the weight great and I love the stiff throat for holstering. Ordered a Dakota Defender from topgun so I will definitely have to compare the two when it arrives, Kevin does great work so i'm sure it will compare to the milt sparks quality

. Thanks for looking!

slimjim · October 4th, 2007, 12:55 AM

Beautiful holsters. They are one of the best. Please post your thoughts on how the Dakota Defender compares. I have a Dakota on order for my M&P Compact. I currently carry it in a VMII. I really like the Sparks, but I tend to prefer holsters w/out the reinforced mouth (i.e. Max-Con, Dakota Defender, Watch-6). Nice guns!

sui-juris · October 4th, 2007, 03:34 AM

Nice guns

SiG239 · October 5th, 2007, 04:58 PM

So the Dakota Defender arrived today. There are some pro's and con's when comparing it to the VMII.

1. Comfort- Both holsters are very comfortable and I would have to say that the dakota may be a little better because of how thin it is. In comparing this holster with the Milt Sparks Watch Six the Dakota Defender would win hands down in detail from what I have seen.

2. Ease of Holstering- Both are very easy to holster and draw and share very similar retention. The VMII will probably be easier for one-handed holstering in the future do to the reinforced mouth.

3. Detail- The dakota wins in the amount of detail that went into the holster. Every shape of the gun can be found in the holster including the slide. The VMII also shows alot of detail and has every amount of detail that is needed.

4. Trigger Guard- The VMII for sure has a more complete coverage of the trigger guard which is very important to me, especially with the Glock is the firearm in question. I had a similar lack of coverage on the trigger guard with the maverik defender. There is an improvement with the dakota and it covers the trigger well enough for carry but not as much as the VMII.

The kydex clips are very nice in the ease of putting on the holster but I still prefer to the leather straps. Kevin does have that option however this holster and if I was ordering directly from Kevin that would be my choice. The cant was perfect the way it came with the clips and clips hold everything in place just fine. I guess its the look that has an effect on the rest of quality leather. However the ability to have deep concealment is a plus. I had an order in with Kevin for a dakota defender for about a month now but after finding this one online I had to save myself the couple month more wait. I am going to go with the Loredo Defender when changing my order.

Both holsters are the best choice for leather IMO and both serve their purpose depending on season and attire. For the price and a couple month less wait time I would strongly suggest going with K&D holsters, K&D is a great choice and Kevin offers nothing but the best in customer service

. Here are some pics.

bzdog · October 5th, 2007, 05:58 PM

Thanks for the review. Now all you need is one of Gary's holsters and we can have a real showdown! :-)

-john

slimjim · October 5th, 2007, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bzdog

Thanks for the review. Now all you need is one of Gary's holsters and we can have a real showdown! :-)

-john

Thanks for the review. As stated earlier, I carry my M&P 40C in a VMII. I also have a Dakota Defender and a Max-Con on order for the same gun. Therefore I am hoping to make this showdown happen someday. Enjoy!

Thumper · October 6th, 2007, 10:59 PM

Yup! Love the VM-II, I have several!

Top Gun Supply · October 8th, 2007, 10:52 AM

SIG239, Thank you for your business and the feedback on the Dakota Defender. Nice job!

Tom

AnimalKracker · October 8th, 2007, 02:10 PM

Nice rigs and nice pistols. I love the VMII that I have for my 1911.

JimmyC4 · October 9th, 2007, 02:22 AM

Sig239...perhaps I'll sound defensive regarding my love for the Watch Six, but I noticed you didn't compare prices on the holsters. The Watch Six comes in at just $67.

Also, if you check it out at the Milt Sparks website you'll find explanation regarding the amount of detail in the Watch Six design.

I should try a VM2, but have stuck with the Watch Six because of it's slim design, not having the thicker reinforced mouth. I presume the comfort level is similar, but there are so many accolades for the VM2 that I feel left out...heh.

October 4th, 2007, 12:49 AM	#1
SiG239 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: TX Posts: 29	Milt Sparks VMII's for p239 and G19 Hello all, Received my VMII for the glock19 today and just had to share some pictures. I've had the VMII for the p239 for about a month now and the draw on the one for the g19 seems to be rougher than the 239, even when it was brand new also. The VMII has to be the most comfortable holster I have used, distributes the weight great and I love the stiff throat for holstering. Ordered a Dakota Defender from topgun so I will definitely have to compare the two when it arrives, Kevin does great work so i'm sure it will compare to the milt sparks quality . Thanks for looking!

October 6th, 2007, 10:59 PM	#7
Thumper VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 5,586	Yup! Love the VM-II, I have several! __________________ USMC 1968-1971 ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell! *"Don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things!"*

October 8th, 2007, 10:52 AM	#8
Top Gun Supply New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 3	SIG239, Thank you for your business and the feedback on the Dakota Defender. Nice job! Tom __________________ http://www.topgunsupply.com - Factory Authorized SIG Sauer Parts Distributor, Magazines, Holsters, Night Sights

October 9th, 2007, 02:22 AM	#10
JimmyC4 Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 1,863	Sig239...perhaps I'll sound defensive regarding my love for the Watch Six, but I noticed you didn't compare prices on the holsters. The Watch Six comes in at just $67. Also, if you check it out at the Milt Sparks website you'll find explanation regarding the amount of detail in the Watch Six design. I should try a VM2, but have stuck with the Watch Six because of it's slim design, not having the thicker reinforced mouth. I presume the comfort level is similar, but there are so many accolades for the VM2 that I feel left out...heh. __________________ "It's a big gun when I carry it, it is also a big gun when I take it out” – Clint Smith

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October 4th, 2007, 12:55 AM	#2
slimjim Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 637	Beautiful holsters. They are one of the best. Please post your thoughts on how the Dakota Defender compares. I have a Dakota on order for my M&P Compact. I currently carry it in a VMII. I really like the Sparks, but I tend to prefer holsters w/out the reinforced mouth (i.e. Max-Con, Dakota Defender, Watch-6). Nice guns!

October 4th, 2007, 03:34 AM	#3
sui-juris Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: MI Posts: 500	Nice guns

October 5th, 2007, 04:58 PM	#4
SiG239 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: TX Posts: 29	So the Dakota Defender arrived today. There are some pro's and con's when comparing it to the VMII. 1. Comfort- Both holsters are very comfortable and I would have to say that the dakota may be a little better because of how thin it is. In comparing this holster with the Milt Sparks Watch Six the Dakota Defender would win hands down in detail from what I have seen. 2. Ease of Holstering- Both are very easy to holster and draw and share very similar retention. The VMII will probably be easier for one-handed holstering in the future do to the reinforced mouth. 3. Detail- The dakota wins in the amount of detail that went into the holster. Every shape of the gun can be found in the holster including the slide. The VMII also shows alot of detail and has every amount of detail that is needed. 4. Trigger Guard- The VMII for sure has a more complete coverage of the trigger guard which is very important to me, especially with the Glock is the firearm in question. I had a similar lack of coverage on the trigger guard with the maverik defender. There is an improvement with the dakota and it covers the trigger well enough for carry but not as much as the VMII. The kydex clips are very nice in the ease of putting on the holster but I still prefer to the leather straps. Kevin does have that option however this holster and if I was ordering directly from Kevin that would be my choice. The cant was perfect the way it came with the clips and clips hold everything in place just fine. I guess its the look that has an effect on the rest of quality leather. However the ability to have deep concealment is a plus. I had an order in with Kevin for a dakota defender for about a month now but after finding this one online I had to save myself the couple month more wait. I am going to go with the Loredo Defender when changing my order. Both holsters are the best choice for leather IMO and both serve their purpose depending on season and attire. For the price and a couple month less wait time I would strongly suggest going with K&D holsters, K&D is a great choice and Kevin offers nothing but the best in customer service . Here are some pics.

October 5th, 2007, 05:58 PM	#5
bzdog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle(ish), WA Posts: 571	Thanks for the review. Now all you need is one of Gary's holsters and we can have a real showdown! :-) -john

October 8th, 2007, 02:10 PM	#9
AnimalKracker Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Eastern Arkansas Posts: 1,382	Nice rigs and nice pistols. I love the VMII that I have for my 1911.