deep concealment for the females - Page 2

Rob99VMI04 · October 11th, 2007, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by friesepferd

in michigan, as was explained to me, carrying in a place you are not suppose to and if its not one of the 'gun free zones' then the following applies:
if you are aware of the policy (aka u work there, there is a sign, etc)
then you are legally classified as a trespasser.
now the problem with that is you are not longer protected by the 'stand your ground rule'
so it comes down to this:
if someone finds out but not because you used your firearm- your probably fired. end of story.

I'm not advocating breaking any laws but if you did you would probably still be alive. PS last I read 1:4 Females will be sexually assaulted in their lives.

Quote:

Originally Posted by friesepferd

if you have to use it- you may be screwed by the court. but if you have to use it.. well then you probably dont regret it

anyways. like i said i dont want this to be a thread about carring in an "NPE" as obiwan said. Im not planning on it. we will assume that for my future job I am allowed to carry, I simply dont want anyone to know.

back to the IWB. I have not given up on it. as I said, i use it all the time and works great no problem. But if I can carry at work It needs to be concealed even better. I need to be able to bend over, get on my hands and knees, crawl into a small space, bump into people, etc. without having to worry about my butt sticking out!

Galco Makes some inner thigh holsters for females however if your wearing genes that may be a problem. Another option is Day Planner Carry, its off body but constantly in your hand. I would say expecially because you in MI jacket pocket carry with a J frame or Keltec may be investigated.

PS Carrying a gun is a system. You dress to your method of carry. Your 1911 is a good gun to have for personal protection carrying on the hip; however, the absolute best gun to have, with best ammuntion combination, that is absoluty is the best one ever made is the one in your HAND when the SHTF.

Redneck Repairs · October 11th, 2007, 02:42 PM

I would say look at some of the " t shirt " holsters , bellybands , or ankle carry . You may well have to go smaller than your 1911 to carry it off tho depending on attire and fit . I dont know about a materials / metallurgical engineer but the materials engineers i have delt with on jobsites ( construction ) sometimes have to change footwear due to environmental issues , and this could be a problem with ankle carry .

bzdog · October 11th, 2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fed_wif_a_sig

Well I've stated previously how I carry, on a daily basis, and just like today, was in slacks and dress shirt and noone spoted all the "stuff" I had concealed under my shirt. Am currently working on an article for a magazine specifically concerning this, so its easy to do.

And here is a link to a thread where he demonstrates his carry method.

-john

FlyboyLDB · October 11th, 2007, 02:48 PM

For traveling around most of my business clients - I use the chest holster w/Kel-Tec PF9. There is pros and cons w/any setup. On the days when I am installing servers and such - I still mainly use the above setup because of the bending, reaching, etc. - That is the reason I thought of the shirt from Kramer or others. I have not used one - but thought it might be an option as it is similar to the chest band holsters.

friesepferd · October 11th, 2007, 02:48 PM

can anyone recommend a good ankle holster? i have never really looked into them. as i said, i have a while so i wont be getting one soon, but i would like to start looking into stuff.
and as i said. off body carry is not an option. my hands need to be free. i defiantly wont be carrying around a purse.

Redneck Repairs · October 11th, 2007, 02:52 PM

Back in the day it was hard to beat galco's offerings for an over the counter rig . Nowdays i dont know so much about them , i only have one its a cheap nylon that only has to support a kahr pm9 once in a blue moon and only on occasions where i wont be walking a lot at that .

Edited to add :

I dont know if any of our resident leathersmiths offer an ankle rig , but if so that would be most likely the best you can get for comfort and function .

PcMakr · October 11th, 2007, 03:35 PM

You might want to try the smartcarry out anyway. IIRC they have a 60 day guarantee. If you don't like it, just send it back for a refund.
http://www.smartcarry.com/trial.htm. I like mine, and if you wear pleated slacks they are hard to see. Besides that, you won't have any other equipment to get in the way or pinched.

Puppy · October 11th, 2007, 03:46 PM

Try before you buy!

Personally I hate ankle holsters.

AK Catfish · October 11th, 2007, 05:18 PM

While I'm not female, definitely not anywhere near 115lbs., and completely understand you desire to stick to a 1911, I'll tell you what works for me. That is a Glock 27 in a Galco Ultra Deep Concealment holster or a Minataur holster. I call this my "Sunday go to meetin' gun" because no one can tell it is there. I don't want to scare anybody.

With a UDC I can conceal the gun under a t-shirt. The Minataur is new but seems to be working fine in this respect. Both holsters are "tuckable". With the UDC, only about half the grip rides above the belt. The Minataur is adjustable for heighth above the belt and can also be adjusted for cant.

Galco instructions show the UDC being work at 2 o'clock so that you can un-tuck it quickly with the off hand. That is also where I wear the Minataur.

With the UDC the rear of the slide tends to pinch me a bit but this can be resolved by wearing a t-shirt between me and the gun or placing a handkerchief in that spot. The Minataur has leather between the gun and the skin, preventing this problem. I believe that they make this holster for 1911s.

Good luck in your search.

LenS · October 11th, 2007, 05:44 PM

OK, I just realized that nobody had mentioned the use of 5.11 Tactical pants (or some other equivalent).

They make Jeans with a hidden holster . . . for men, but keep a future eye out in case they decide to expand that line for women.
http://511tactical.com/index.asp?dlr...W&number=74002

Women's Tactical Pant - Cotton Pants (typically the pockets should be able to hold a holster/gun):
http://511tactical.com/index.asp?dlr...W&number=64355

The holster pouch may work in some of the pockets.
http://511tactical.com/index.asp?dlr...W&number=59002

These pants are frequently on sale at 5.11 or elsewhere (http://www.lapolicegear.com/, ombexpress.com, etc.) for better prices.

October 11th, 2007, 02:42 PM	#12
Redneck Repairs VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,141	I would say look at some of the " t shirt " holsters , bellybands , or ankle carry . You may well have to go smaller than your 1911 to carry it off tho depending on attire and fit . I dont know about a materials / metallurgical engineer but the materials engineers i have delt with on jobsites ( construction ) sometimes have to change footwear due to environmental issues , and this could be a problem with ankle carry . __________________ Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life . We only begin to understand folks after we stop and think . Criminals are looking for victims, not opponents.

October 11th, 2007, 02:52 PM	#16
Redneck Repairs VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,141	Back in the day it was hard to beat galco's offerings for an over the counter rig . Nowdays i dont know so much about them , i only have one its a cheap nylon that only has to support a kahr pm9 once in a blue moon and only on occasions where i wont be walking a lot at that . Edited to add : I dont know if any of our resident leathersmiths offer an ankle rig , but if so that would be most likely the best you can get for comfort and function . __________________ Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life . We only begin to understand folks after we stop and think . Criminals are looking for victims, not opponents.

October 11th, 2007, 05:18 PM	#19
AK Catfish New Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wasilla, AK Posts: 10	deep concealment for the females While I'm not female, definitely not anywhere near 115lbs., and completely understand you desire to stick to a 1911, I'll tell you what works for me. That is a Glock 27 in a Galco Ultra Deep Concealment holster or a Minataur holster. I call this my "Sunday go to meetin' gun" because no one can tell it is there. I don't want to scare anybody. With a UDC I can conceal the gun under a t-shirt. The Minataur is new but seems to be working fine in this respect. Both holsters are "tuckable". With the UDC, only about half the grip rides above the belt. The Minataur is adjustable for heighth above the belt and can also be adjusted for cant. Galco instructions show the UDC being work at 2 o'clock so that you can un-tuck it quickly with the off hand. That is also where I wear the Minataur. With the UDC the rear of the slide tends to pinch me a bit but this can be resolved by wearing a t-shirt between me and the gun or placing a handkerchief in that spot. The Minataur has leather between the gun and the skin, preventing this problem. I believe that they make this holster for 1911s. Good luck in your search.

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October 11th, 2007, 02:48 PM	#14
FlyboyLDB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GA Posts: 848	For traveling around most of my business clients - I use the chest holster w/Kel-Tec PF9. There is pros and cons w/any setup. On the days when I am installing servers and such - I still mainly use the above setup because of the bending, reaching, etc. - That is the reason I thought of the shirt from Kramer or others. I have not used one - but thought it might be an option as it is similar to the chest band holsters.

October 11th, 2007, 02:48 PM	#15
friesepferd Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: what used to be the state of Franklin (look it up) Posts: 1,719	can anyone recommend a good ankle holster? i have never really looked into them. as i said, i have a while so i wont be getting one soon, but i would like to start looking into stuff. and as i said. off body carry is not an option. my hands need to be free. i defiantly wont be carrying around a purse.

October 11th, 2007, 03:35 PM	#17
PcMakr Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 110	You might want to try the smartcarry out anyway. IIRC they have a 60 day guarantee. If you don't like it, just send it back for a refund. http://www.smartcarry.com/trial.htm. I like mine, and if you wear pleated slacks they are hard to see. Besides that, you won't have any other equipment to get in the way or pinched.

October 11th, 2007, 03:46 PM	#18
Puppy Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 471	Try before you buy! Personally I hate ankle holsters.

October 11th, 2007, 05:44 PM	#20
LenS Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,373	OK, I just realized that nobody had mentioned the use of 5.11 Tactical pants (or some other equivalent). They make Jeans with a hidden holster . . . for men, but keep a future eye out in case they decide to expand that line for women. http://511tactical.com/index.asp?dlr...W&number=74002 Women's Tactical Pant - Cotton Pants (typically the pockets should be able to hold a holster/gun): http://511tactical.com/index.asp?dlr...W&number=64355 The holster pouch may work in some of the pockets. http://511tactical.com/index.asp?dlr...W&number=59002 These pants are frequently on sale at 5.11 or elsewhere (http://www.lapolicegear.com/, ombexpress.com, etc.) for better prices.