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Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options There are some really good defensive carry holster designs, as well as some very bad ones on the market today. Whether you are in the market for a new holster or just discovered another perfect carry option, let us know about it here.

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Old June 24th, 2008, 09:43 PM   #11
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I figured this would come up, just surprised it did so quickly!

Thread immediately goes off-topic!

I've lived nearly 36 years without carrying a gun at all.

Are you suggesting if I don't want to wear a gun belt, I should not carry at all?

Are you willing to make suggestions that will work within my constraints, even if they may appear to be unreasonable to you?

Or must one conform to gun-culture fashion norms in order to defend themselves?

I guess between the lines I am getting the answer that neither the Hume nor the High Noon holster will work without a gun belt... is that right? Considering this is at least related to the question I asked.

FWIW my belt is not a fashion accessory. It's there to keep my pants up. It's covered by the tail of my shirt all of the time. Sometimes it has other non-gun equipment clipped to it out of necessity. It is not really a viable option for me to change to using a gun belt for a variety of reasons but it's not merely some whimsical fashion choice.
A good gun belt has nothing to do with "gun fashion". It's got all to do with supporting the gun and keeping the holster in place. I have a gun belt that is leather and looks no different than any other belt you would get at a clothing store. It's just reinforced , but no one would know by looking at it. You being against a gun belt just because that's what it's called makes me think you haven't searched the options out there.
No one is trying to "come down on you" for not wanting a gun belt, like it's some fashion statement you have to use to "be in the club". It's only the best option for carrying a heavy gun and highly recommended. A regular belt just won't do it comfortably. Like using a guitar strap to hold up a guitar rather than a piece of string.
You have other options of carrying. Smartcarry is good, but slow draw. I have one I use occasionally but I only use it for a j-frame because it's small.
Maybe a shoulder harness. Or get a smaller gun that doesnt require a heavier belt for good support.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 09:55 PM   #12
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You simply cannot carry a pistol on your hip without a good belt. You are eventually going to have problems of either comfort or you are going to be very embaressed when your pistol flops out on the ground. There are belts made for guns that look like any style of fashion that you want. I do realize that there are times where you just can't wear a belt. For those times you need a small pistol in a pocket holster. There are trade offs to be made if you are going to carry. Spend the money and do it right.

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Old June 24th, 2008, 11:58 PM   #13
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Revelator, I just got a HNH Bare Asset- (Solftee witha 15 cant) for my Colt OM. It works great for it. I am do not like any carry less than 4:00 for me.. just does not work. I find the belt does not matter very much with an IWB carry like this, as long as the belt holds the holster in tight to the body
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Old June 25th, 2008, 01:41 AM   #14
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All holsters work better with a good gun belt. It makes the gun feel so much lighter then it is. With that said our reverse J hook does work well with cheaper belts. The reverse J, will hook onto the belt when the gun is needed. Questions
Its not going to miss. J Hook It does not know if its a cheap belt or a good gun belt. The holster is also lite weight, which will help the cheap belt out a little. And if you do not like it, just send it back inside 30 days. Guarantee

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Old June 25th, 2008, 02:56 AM   #15
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to ANSWER the question..... I have 3 Hume 715's for 3 different guns and reallly like them. They work well, are solid, and well formed for the different guns (XD, Cougar, Kel-Tec). The clips are so tight, I can clip them to my pants and they aren't going anywhere...... LOL.

I DON'T use a gun belt, never have used a gun belt even when I worked in the system and carried almost 24/7, and never will. I have had NO issues or problems at all in 50+ years. I do use a good leather belt. I don't think I would use the canvas belts that I have... but then I pocket carry when I use those and wear shorts.
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Old June 25th, 2008, 08:43 AM   #16
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thanks guys. I understand that a gun belt is recommended but there are also a dozen other things that are recommended for IWB, most of which are not going to be something I am going to routinely do. I don't want to wind up with a holster that will ONLY EVER work with a gun belt, that's a waste of time since probably 75% of the time I'd need it, I won't be able to use it with any kind of heavy belt, or at least not one that is worn tight enough that there would be any advantage to wearing it.
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I've never tried any High Noon holsters, but I have two Don Hume H-715's (the S.O.O.T. version with straps instead of clip). I just recently received my first custom made IWB holster. So far, I like the Don Hume's better than the custom.
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I've lived nearly 36 years without carrying a gun at all.
Congrats.

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Are you suggesting if I don't want to wear a gun belt, I should not carry at all?
Nope, everyone is just trying to make it the most comfortable and tell you, from their experiences, what works.

People try things that don't work. They get frustrated and decide carrying just won't work for them, or it isn't comfortable, is starting to cost too much, etc. Since you came here for advise, I am assuming you want to make this work for you. Everyone just wants it to be a smooth, comfortable, safe, and concealable transition for you.

Glad you came around to listening to the advice, although I am not sure you'll accept it right away. Some just have to learn things on their own.

I would take a look at the High Noon Split Decision. It has some forward cant and is tuck-able. Will accomplish the same thing you're trying to do with a couple better features...for only about $10 more I think it's well worth the added cost.
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I also have a Sigma(I have two actually) and I also have the Hume 715 clip holster. I think the Hume holster is a bit more fitted to the gun than the HN soft holsters.

I have carried the Sigma in the Hume IWB with a cheap belt, no belt, and a decent gun belt. For me, if I'm appendix carrying, it was fine with a cheap belt. For carrying on the hip, or around the 4:30-5 position....having a good belt is an improvement for sure...but I still do it with a cheaper belt from time to time.
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People try things that don't work. They get frustrated and decide carrying just won't work for them, or it isn't comfortable, is starting to cost too much, etc. Since you came here for advise, I am assuming you want to make this work for you. Everyone just wants it to be a smooth, comfortable, safe, and concealable transition for you.

Glad you came around to listening to the advice, although I am not sure you'll accept it right away. Some just have to learn things on their own.
Well, I know what my limitations are, and there is no way you guys could know about these limitations. So that's why I asked a specific question, and not a general inquiry for advice. I know already that many people, rightly, advise the use of a gun belt. However, not everyone is in my situation so I suspect if you were given my circumstances, you likely would make the same type of choices I am making.

But if one other person tells me I have to dress around my gun or otherwise I am not taking my personal safety seriously then I think I might just set my hair on fire.

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I would take a look at the High Noon Split Decision. It has some forward cant and is tuck-able. Will accomplish the same thing you're trying to do with a couple better features...for only about $10 more I think it's well worth the added cost.
Really? As I understand it, the cant is not useful for appendix carry, right? and also I have absolutely no need for a tuckable holster. If I find that I am more likely to carry at 4:00-5:00 then I will probably just get a Bare Asset...

The feature that would be more useful for me would be adjustable cant. Even more useful would be adjustable ride height (ability to get it to ride lower ... and yes I know the drawbacks, I have a smartcarry after all). All of that with a holster that is as compact as any of these High Noon holsters we have been talking about would be great. The sheer size of something like an MTAC is way too much for my circumstances...
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