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| Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options There are some really good defensive carry holster designs, as well as some very bad ones on the market today. Whether you are in the market for a new holster or just discovered another perfect carry option, let us know about it here. |
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You want to cover the ENTIRE slide???
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Gun Holsters for Firearms, Maxprotect Covert Holsters for Guns, Pistols and IDPA Shooting I haven't seen THIS particular holster in person, but their products are ALWAYS world class! Or, are you looking for a holster that simply covers the muzzle rather than leaving it exposed? If that's the case, there are tons of options available. |
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Location: PA
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I am a bit bias since I helped design the Modern Combative Systems Appendix Carry Rig (ACR) from Raven Concealment. Here is a piece I wrote as to the thought process behind it.
It is important to be familiar with MCS' overall doctrine when it comes to combatives in order to realize the reason for appendix carry and the MCS ACR holster. MCS concerns itself with open hand, impact, edged weapons and firearms within seven yards in any environment. The physical basis of MCS begins with open hand combatives. We do not teach a specific ready position but rather what is naturally a comfortable default position. The hands are most swinging from the pocket seams up to about the mid torso. Picture swinging your hand up and down / in and out in this position like you were snapping your fingers. From this repetitive path of motion is where we work. It only makes good sense to have our tools positioned in this path. Making this motion forms a stable triangle from the base (your pocket seam) to the peak (your chest) MCS is concerned with continuity of training from open hand-impact-edged weapons-firearms. What I mean but that is we know that you will always have your open hands and usually at least in improvised impact weapon, then depending on your situation an edged weapon or pistol. When you train to access, deploy and use your edged weapons and pistol within the same triangle you use for open hand combatives two things happen, one you become faster, and two your transition between physical and mechanical force becomes seamless. This builds confidence and reliability. This is where the appendix carry and the specifically the Appendix Carry Rig comes in. In MCS the pistol is not our talisman, not our tactical woobie. It is simply another mechanical force option that is also a deadly force option. We don't believe in gunfights. Only fights that may involve gun fire. Through training in the other levels of physical and mechanical force we try to avoid the typical default of the hand to the gun under any stress. You don't pick up a Phillips or regular screwdriver before seeing what type of screw you need to use it on. Pistol craft is nothing more than another skills set. Made more important only by it's liability because of increased range. We don't believe that you are unarmed by not having one. But if you are in a position of being able to carry we endorse the appendix carry. Not only does the appendix carry position the pistol inside the triangle, but it lends itself to being drawn not matter if you find yourself standing, crouching, on your back, on your stomach or on your sides. Why? Because to recover from any of these positions your hands are going to move past the appendix position, not to behind your hip, small of the back, ankle or whatever. Another place the position shines is while seated behind the wheel of a car. Traditional holster placement puts your pistol under a concealment garment, secured over with a seatbelt. Slow at best. Where do your hands lay while seated? In your lap, right where your pistol is. Through working with Raven Concealment along with the input of other great minds in the combative (not just gun fighting) industry we have been able to produce the Appendix Carry Rig, not just a holster. The difference? A rig means just that, a platform that can be used with or without the use of additional mounting accessories to "rig" the holster to accommodate the broadest range of users ever imaginable. If you view your pistol as just another option in your overall personal protection plan then the ACR is for you. If you view your pistol as a hammer and everything looks like a nail, then by all means, carry your hammer in whatever way makes you fell good. |
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Location: Phoenix
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Ramrod...I've got a bit more overhang than you do, but that photo you posted looks like torture! Anything poking me like that all day would cause me mental damage!
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Location: SW Missouri
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I use A-IWB 95% of the time that I'm not working. I use a Tucker Cover-up (there is a review with pics here on the site). The others that I would recommend are either the Raven, or the High-Noon "Mr. Softy."
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Location: North Carolina
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I have two EHUD's that I have been using for a little over a year. One for my G-19 and the other for the G-21. I had to modify the bottom edge of the holsters so they didn't jab me in the tender bits, but now that its done I rarely have issues.
On a side note, I'm kinda not mid-sectionally enhanced (5'10" 185#) so it works for me. However, YMMV. I'm trying to be careful here. The only times I have issues with this method of carrying is when I am seated for extended periods of time (long trips in the car). I find that I have to remind myself to pull the belt up a little higher and suck the gut in. If I don't, well, I get some pressure on the old pubic bone or on the lower ribs. Now, if I am doing stuff around the house or just out and about I have zero complaints with this method of carrying. I don't use the one for the 21 much anymore now that the Raven is here. However the EHUD for the 19 I use everyday during the warmer/hotter months for CCW. When the temps. drop I will be carrying the G-21 in my Raven Phantom exclusively when out and about. On a side note there is another version of the AIWB on onesourcetactical.com that is called the JOSHUA covert, it has over the belt loops instead of the underhook. Hope that helped some. Anthony |
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Location: Central FL
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Check out the link on the post about new Raven Holster, by Raven Concealment .
They have a model specific to appendix carry with a Glock. |
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Location: Over here now!
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The new AIWB from Tucker
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![]() Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Miami, FL
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Anyone use a FIST #4k for appendix carry?
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