2 New VMII'S - Page 2

orangehole · December 26th, 2008, 02:19 PM

Wow great work as always Matt!!

I can understand the frustration that Redrick has. Spend a rather large sum of money and expect perfection. Don't worry about a tight fit. That is usually not a problem. Practice draws or the old "gun in plastic bag" works wonders to losen it up. Work them a bit and see if they wear in for you. Don;t worry, because you can easily sell them for more than you paid!

Milt Sparks just charged my CC so my VM2 shark plus belt for my 640-1 should be here anyday now. Been almost 6.5 months wait.

xrmattaz · December 26th, 2008, 02:30 PM

A large portion of the tension on the VM2 comes from the reinforced mouth. You can bend it inwards/outwards to create more or less. (as it was designed, per my conversations with the Spark's guys)

automatic slim · December 26th, 2008, 03:39 PM

ALL holsters need to be broken in.

redrick · December 26th, 2008, 05:21 PM

Thanks again for the help and it is like orangehole said ( I was frustrated). I waited 6 months (as y'all have) and I didn't expect to have trouble with putting it on the belt. I have never heard anyone post about this before. I did expect to have to break it in some, so it would draw smoothly.

Y'all have made me feel better about them and that the snaps will break in. I hope others who are going buy them read this, in-case they run into the same problem.

I will keep you posted on the end result.

I am not going to sell them right now and I would not want anyone to buy something that doesn't work right with out knowing about it.

Thanks again and if you have had the same problem let us no and how it worked out for you.

I am going to see if Sparks will put this problem in his FAQ's.

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Matt Del Fatti · December 26th, 2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangehole

Wow great work as always Matt!!

Thank you David! I wasn't lookin' for a compliment....but I'll sure take one

xrmattaz · December 26th, 2008, 09:29 PM

Trust me, I've had lesser snaps from other makers that unsnapped at will.....I'd rather have tight snaps that will break in with use.

Good onya for keeping those beautiful holsters!

In no time, you'll be posting about those gems being the bee's knees!

JimmyC4 · December 26th, 2008, 11:22 PM

I too have a newer VMII with shark, and am still struggling to get the snaps right. Have to fight with them to get them snapped, and sometimes they don't hold, since I've not done it right.

I think this is a function of the straps being shark, they don't give as much to give enough room to work with when operating the snaps.

I'll stick with it, but have found the snap thing to be frustrating.

T Bone · December 26th, 2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyC4

I too have a newer VMII with shark, and am still struggling to get the snaps right. Have to fight with them to get them snapped, and sometimes they don't hold, since I've not done it right.

I think this is a function of the straps being shark, they don't give as much to give enough room to work with when operating the snaps.

I'll stick with it, but have found the snap thing to be frustrating.

I've had minor issues with mine as well, but determined it is simply the stiffness of the loop fighting me getting the one way snap started properly while on- there is a "sweet spot" sort of, and once you get it there, they snap easily.

This past week, I took some Renaissance wax to my VM2HS to protect the surface for the first time (this is the product Milt Sparks recommends for leather care).

In applying the wax to the holster, I inadvertently got some on the snaps, and I was AMAZED at how much easier they became to work!
I'd taken to mostly putting the holster on the belt before putting the pants on (much easier) but since the wax, not necessary.

PKL · December 27th, 2008, 11:22 AM

I am also unhappy with my VM2 for Sig P239. It's just not comfy. I think I am too skinny of a man for IWB holsters. I even bought a oversized pair of jeans to fit the holster and gun better, and it still does not feel right at all. I put it up on ebay yesterday.

Juggernaut · December 27th, 2008, 02:40 PM

I know Tony Kanaley's on vacation this weekend, and probably will respond to this thread.

I'm pretty sure the snaps are supposed to be utilized only for removing the holster and such is/was stated somewhere on the Milt Sparks site.

The belt is supposed to be slid through loops already snapped together.

Stretching the loops to facilitate snapping them onto the belt will result in loose loops and a "roving" holster. Ask me how I know.

December 26th, 2008, 03:39 PM	#13
automatic slim Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The western edge of The Confederacy Posts: 1,223	ALL holsters need to be broken in. __________________ "First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand." Edge of Darkness

December 26th, 2008, 11:22 PM	#17
JimmyC4 Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Minnesnowta Posts: 1,864	I too have a newer VMII with shark, and am still struggling to get the snaps right. Have to fight with them to get them snapped, and sometimes they don't hold, since I've not done it right. I think this is a function of the straps being shark, they don't give as much to give enough room to work with when operating the snaps. I'll stick with it, but have found the snap thing to be frustrating. __________________ "It's a big gun when I carry it, it is also a big gun when I take it out” – Clint Smith

December 27th, 2008, 02:40 PM	#20
Juggernaut Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 570	I know Tony Kanaley's on vacation this weekend, and probably will respond to this thread. I'm pretty sure the snaps are supposed to be utilized only for removing the holster and such is/was stated somewhere on the Milt Sparks site. The belt is supposed to be slid through loops already snapped together. Stretching the loops to facilitate snapping them onto the belt will result in loose loops and a "roving" holster. Ask me how I know. __________________ Vis consili expers mole ruit sua. -Horace

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December 26th, 2008, 02:19 PM	#11
orangehole Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PA Posts: 289	Wow great work as always Matt!! I can understand the frustration that Redrick has. Spend a rather large sum of money and expect perfection. Don't worry about a tight fit. That is usually not a problem. Practice draws or the old "gun in plastic bag" works wonders to losen it up. Work them a bit and see if they wear in for you. Don;t worry, because you can easily sell them for more than you paid! Milt Sparks just charged my CC so my VM2 shark plus belt for my 640-1 should be here anyday now. Been almost 6.5 months wait.

December 26th, 2008, 02:30 PM	#12
xrmattaz Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 96	A large portion of the tension on the VM2 comes from the reinforced mouth. You can bend it inwards/outwards to create more or less. (as it was designed, per my conversations with the Spark's guys)

December 26th, 2008, 05:21 PM	#14
redrick Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,573	Thanks again for the help and it is like orangehole said ( I was frustrated). I waited 6 months (as y'all have) and I didn't expect to have trouble with putting it on the belt. I have never heard anyone post about this before. I did expect to have to break it in some, so it would draw smoothly. Y'all have made me feel better about them and that the snaps will break in. I hope others who are going buy them read this, in-case they run into the same problem. I will keep you posted on the end result. I am not going to sell them right now and I would not want anyone to buy something that doesn't work right with out knowing about it. Thanks again and if you have had the same problem let us no and how it worked out for you. I am going to see if Sparks will put this problem in his FAQ's. I

December 26th, 2008, 09:29 PM	#16
xrmattaz Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 96	Trust me, I've had lesser snaps from other makers that unsnapped at will.....I'd rather have tight snaps that will break in with use. Good onya for keeping those beautiful holsters! In no time, you'll be posting about those gems being the bee's knees!

December 27th, 2008, 11:22 AM	#19
PKL New Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Brooklyn / CT Posts: 3	I am also unhappy with my VM2 for Sig P239. It's just not comfy. I think I am too skinny of a man for IWB holsters. I even bought a oversized pair of jeans to fit the holster and gun better, and it still does not feel right at all. I put it up on ebay yesterday.