2 New VMII'S - Page 3

redrick · December 27th, 2008, 03:23 PM

I have never read that on his sight and there is room for improvement with these type of snaps. This brand is not the first one with snaps that I have, and they were hard to snap also, but I could snap them on the belt.

It's hard to argue with a 6 month wait list, but if I new that you could only use them for removing the holster I would have picked another make or maker.

Sparks has a good reputation so I am sure that it will work out.

Lasports · December 27th, 2008, 03:41 PM

As mentioned earlier Milt Sparks utilizes the saftey dot snap on their VM-2.
This snap must be engaged by rolling upward from the bottom to snap and downward from the top to disengage. If done properly the snaps engage with little effort. There may be a small break in period to stretch the belt loop leather depending upon the thickness of your belt. The width of the belt should match the belt loops used. Because variou makers use a different belt thickness the break in period may vary. You may find yourself threading your belt through the snapped loops until break in is accomplished. During the break in period remove the holster by unsnapping the loops and then re-snapping before you put the holster on. The earlier comment regarding only using the snaps to remove the holster is erroneous. Once the loops are broken in you can use the snaps at ease to put on or take off the holster.

xrmattaz · December 27th, 2008, 05:06 PM

Good post, Audrey! (

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Hi, Craig!

T Bone · December 27th, 2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrmattaz

Good post, Audrey! (

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Hi, Craig!

+1000! I bought my first VM2 from you folks (with a couple of MS Mag carriers). Fantastic service by the way!

Just want to reiterate here, in case I was not clear in my last post, my snaps that I inadvertently hit with the Renaissance wax are now smooth as butter! I no longer need to thread the belt before donning the holster, I just snapped and unsnapped each of them effortlessly about five times while typing this post to be sure!

They are definitely supposed to be useable without removing the belt, that is one of the key features of the VM2, you can take it off and put if back on while out and about.

mocarryguy · December 27th, 2008, 10:00 PM

Humm..a removable holster that you can not use as a removable holster..
I did not like my Sparks, and when I don't like things..they go away. I like my Broomland much better, and have had great luck with it. Sparks quality is by far some of the best you will find..just not sure it is the cat's meow most think it is.
Luck.

redrick · December 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM

Good news I can snap one of the holsters now. I took some of yawl's advice and I wore one of them and it has stretched enough to snap on the belt now. It was the one for the J Frame,( it was the easier to snap from the beginning).

I called Sparks today and told them about the problem. They gave me 2 possible solutions.
To stretch the loops by putting the plastic bag, that they came in over the belt and then sliding the holster over it. I haven't tried it, but I think it would be impossible to do.
If that does not work, send the loops back and they will make them in 1 3/4".

I told them how I got the other one to work and they said it would be OK to do that but, I better not damage the loops, where they can't be resold.

They said that Shark is harder to stretch, but it will stretch some.

T Bone · December 29th, 2008, 03:38 PM

Try the soap (or some wax of some sort) on the metal male portion of the snaps, just a light application. I swear, mine improved 80% or better right after that one accidental application of the Renaissance Wax.

T Bone · December 29th, 2008, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mocarryguy

Humm..a removable holster that you can not use as a removable holster..
I did not like my Sparks, and when I don't like things..they go away. I like my Broomland much better, and have had great luck with it. Sparks quality is by far some of the best you will find..just not sure it is the cat's meow most think it is.
Luck.

?? Who said you can't? I do it, now that I've got my snaps waxed, they work great! Removing was never an issue anyway. Getting the snaps to go back in place was difficult but do-able. Not difficult any more! And I did use my Axiom this way when it was nearly new.

The Brommeland does look nice. But the Sparks, WRT being the "cat's pajama's"? I find them to be nearly purrrrfect.

Sorry, couldn't resist...

December 27th, 2008, 03:41 PM	#22
Lasports Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 60	As mentioned earlier Milt Sparks utilizes the saftey dot snap on their VM-2. This snap must be engaged by rolling upward from the bottom to snap and downward from the top to disengage. If done properly the snaps engage with little effort. There may be a small break in period to stretch the belt loop leather depending upon the thickness of your belt. The width of the belt should match the belt loops used. Because variou makers use a different belt thickness the break in period may vary. You may find yourself threading your belt through the snapped loops until break in is accomplished. During the break in period remove the holster by unsnapping the loops and then re-snapping before you put the holster on. The earlier comment regarding only using the snaps to remove the holster is erroneous. Once the loops are broken in you can use the snaps at ease to put on or take off the holster. __________________ Lightning Arms Sports Inc. www.lasports.biz lasports@lasports.cc Purveryor Of Fine Leather Holsters & Accessories.

December 27th, 2008, 05:06 PM	#23
xrmattaz Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 96	Good post, Audrey! () Hi, Craig!

December 27th, 2008, 10:00 PM	#25
mocarryguy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Heaven Posts: 578	Humm..a removable holster that you can not use as a removable holster.. I did not like my Sparks, and when I don't like things..they go away. I like my Broomland much better, and have had great luck with it. Sparks quality is by far some of the best you will find..just not sure it is the cat's meow most think it is. Luck. __________________ I know, I know, you are smarter than me..just ask you..

December 29th, 2008, 03:38 PM	#27
T Bone Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Metropolitan Detroit Posts: 1,984	Try the soap (or some wax of some sort) on the metal male portion of the snaps, just a light application. I swear, mine improved 80% or better right after that one accidental application of the Renaissance Wax. __________________ Regards, T Bone. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin

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December 27th, 2008, 03:23 PM	#21
redrick Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,573	I have never read that on his sight and there is room for improvement with these type of snaps. This brand is not the first one with snaps that I have, and they were hard to snap also, but I could snap them on the belt. It's hard to argue with a 6 month wait list, but if I new that you could only use them for removing the holster I would have picked another make or maker. Sparks has a good reputation so I am sure that it will work out.

December 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM	#26
redrick Distinguished Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,573	Good news I can snap one of the holsters now. I took some of yawl's advice and I wore one of them and it has stretched enough to snap on the belt now. It was the one for the J Frame,( it was the easier to snap from the beginning). I called Sparks today and told them about the problem. They gave me 2 possible solutions. To stretch the loops by putting the plastic bag, that they came in over the belt and then sliding the holster over it. I haven't tried it, but I think it would be impossible to do. If that does not work, send the loops back and they will make them in 1 3/4". I told them how I got the other one to work and they said it would be OK to do that but, I better not damage the loops, where they can't be resold. They said that Shark is harder to stretch, but it will stretch some.