BikerRN

Why not try a J-Frame Revolver and a set of Barami Hip Grips?

It's IWB, carries great in the appendix position, and easily concealed by an untucked shirt. and a belt. If it were me I would probably add a set of Tyler T-Grips to it as well. That will help you to hang on to the little bugger when you make it go BANG.

Bear in mind, the appendix position is a favorite of gangbangers. They must know something we don't. What they know is, it's fast to draw from, doesn't telegraph that you have a gun as easily when you go to draw and being that the gun is carried in the front of the body, allows the use of the hands to help "hide" the gun as well as making it easier to retain in a struggle.

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cmdrdredd

I visit Ohio and carry when I'm there. I've read the laws regarding having a firearm off body while driving. It's similar to FL, it has to be in a closed container. Basically anything that has a top that can close over the weapon so it's not immediately visible. It can still be accessible. otherwise it should be on your person, again concealed.

The problem with driving and carrying on body in a holster is accessibility. Nothing short of a shoulder rig in my experience is really easy to access while seated. Even appendix carry is slower than I'd like. For general carry I would definitely recommend appendix carry for anyone with a smallish gun. It can be very comfortable and easy to access. It also does not require you to reach to your hip or even slightly behind as so many of us like to carry and which may be limited due to lack of mobility. I know quite a few wheelchair bound CCW holders who love these packs similar to what was linked. I also know a few people who do the fanny pack thing. It doesn't look odd and nobody asks questions.

I hope you find something both workable and comfortable.

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PrimalScream

Thanks again for the replies.
BikerRN - I've been a "backyard" target shooter - I am new to all the correct terms etc, so forgive me if this is a dumb question. I love my 66, but I did recently buy a S&W 2-1/8" 649 for carrying. I don't totally understand the term "J-frame" it is one thing confusing me when I look for holsters. Some makers list "J-frame," but not my specific S&W model. I **think** the 649 is a J frame, but I am not sure. It is the 649 that I am looking to holster for CC.

cmdrdredd - I did go look up the laws last night, and I am not 100% sure the pack would pass here, since the side is fastened with velcro. Here is the section from the handout we got in class.
"If you have a concealed carry permit, you may not transport a loaded, concealed handgun in a vehicle unless it is carried in one of the following ways:
•The loaded handgun is in a holster secured on the person. Ohio law previously required carrying firearms in a holster in plain sight. The “plain sight” provision has been removed from the law.
•The loaded handgun is in a closed case, bag, box, or other container that is in plain sight and that has a lid, a cover, or a closing mechanism with a zipper, snap, or buckle, which lid, cover or closing mechanism must be opened for a person to gain access to the handgun, or
•The loaded handgun is securely encased by being stored in a closed, glove compartment or console, or in a case that is locked."

You said you would recommend appendix carry (except for car access). What are your thoughts on cant? I suppose, a 6'4" guy would have an easier time sitting with a small gun in this position and not have it hit his leg if it was not at a cant. I am not tall, so I don't have much area between waist and leg.
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I am wondering, if the Safepacker would fall under Ohio law, if I could use the Safepacker on typical workdays when all I do is go from house to car to work and back. Then, use an appendix holster for around in the house, yard, days I run errands etc. It should be pretty easy to slip firearm from appendix holster to Safepacker in my lap in the car without showing firearm on those days. Would need to practice a bit.

MNBurl

Congrats on the decision to carry. On body carry via pocket like your already doing with the J-frame is a good choice.

Another option to think about is Appendix carry with zero deg cant which looks like you are already looking into. Of my holsters, the Minimal Clip/Snap or Quick Clip/Snap would be the best solution for on-body carry. I have several of these in stock that may meet your needs.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Here are Quick Clip pics with my Model 60.

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BikerRN

Yes, the 649, IIRC, is a J-Frame. The Model 66 is a K Frame. The easy way to tell is, if it takes 38 Special rounds and has 5 shots, it's a J-Frame.

As far as "dumb questions", there is no such thing. As I was told a long time ago, "The only dumb question is the one you didn't ask." I can assure you that if you have a question, someone else has had the same question.

Good luck and please feel free to ask any question that you have. I'm not an expert, but I am willing to share what I know, either in the forum or a PM.

Biker

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PrimalScream

MNBurl - that looks good, went to your site. I looked at them before and liked their simplicity and they look easy to use, but noticed you don't show muzzle forward cant, so did not have your site bookmarked in my search. Quick Clip has reinforcement, that is the differnce between it and Minimal? When I hold my firearm in the pocket holster, up to my screen, your photo comes up almost exactly life size. I measured where the top of the clip is, to see where it would hit me when on a belt. When I hold the gun there, and sit down, it pokes me in the leg, and the gun is forced to go up at least an inch, maybe more. Since I am short, there is not much room between my waist and my leg when I am sitting. To clear my leg, I would have to move it over very close to my zipper. This is why I am asking about cant for appendix area. You mention your holsters are zero deg cant. Your website says the Quick Clip can be canted from 0 to 15 degrees, but is this only muzzle rear cant? or could you go the other way, such as a cross draw holster would use?

I can't (pardon the pun) seem to get around the idea that if I go appendix carry, without muzzle forward cant, I will be poked in the leg, or the holster and belt will ride up (quite a bit) in that spot.

Is the trick to go ahead and try it even though it doesn't seem like it will work with zero degrees? Maybe it is because I have never tried one.

AZ Husker

Appendix carry used to work well for me with a smaller gun, like a G19 or J-frame. But now that I'm all grown up and out, there just isn't room anymore. It's fine standing, but no way to sit comfortably. I hate getting older and bigger!

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MrsFosforos

I don't know why I didn't think of this before. A while back, I had DM Bullard make me an IWB with the intention of carrying at appendix and asked him to put a slight cross draw cant on it. That keeps the barrel from poking me in the leg and it keeps the grip out of my ribs. If I can conceal a compact 1911 like this, I'd guess the same concept should work with the shorter barrel of your snubbie.




I see on his site he now makes a tuckable version with a belt clip that allows you to change the depth and cant of the holster - that's a great idea! I wish he had that options before! These are pictures from his site:



David was great to work with, emailed me frequently to make sure I got what I asked for AND he offered to refund me if it wasn't what I expected. Turn around was within a week or so at that time.

PrimalScream

MrsFosforos - that is exactly what I had in mind. Do you ever use the holster you had made? How do you like it for appendix carry?

I like the clip, but since his clips have the part that sticks out at the bottom - I have a question. I wear a lot of sweaters. Do you think that the clip would snag the inside of the sweaters? Wondering if I need to look at loops (which I don't think I want for some reason??) or at a maker who has clips that don't have that "z" at the bottom?

MNBurl

Good questions. I can do any cant you want. Generally cant for appendix can be -10 to +10 degrees depending on what would work for an individual.

The Minimal Clip is non re-enforced and Quick Clip is. I have Quick Clips available in stock for 0 and +15 degrees.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

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