Any comments on the "ClipDraw" ??? - Page 2

OhShoot · February 5th, 2009, 04:19 PM

Yeah, every time ClipDraw is mentioned, we have to have 75% response rate about how unsafe it is.

On the other hand, have never read about ONE documented (or even claimed, for that matter) discharge caused by the ClipDraw. Not one.

However, the occurrence of AD/ND while reholstering into traditional holsters is well know.

- OS

Thumper · February 5th, 2009, 04:25 PM

Some like 'em but you couldn't give me one.

I want my trigger covered in a holster. No modified "Mex" carry for me.

QKShooter · February 5th, 2009, 04:27 PM

If you want to try one (cheap) PM me - I have a dealer sample sitting around that has never been used.
PM me.

IMPORTANT:
You need to make certain that your 1911 is properly functioning and that it has a stiff Thumb Safety that will not move to "Off Safe" position on its own accord.

MikeGoob · February 5th, 2009, 04:53 PM

I have a clip draw on my Ruger Sp101

I got it more as an option, I dont really use it as the only carrying method. One thing to keep in mind, with my gun anyway, you cant use it in conjunction with a Crimson Trace lasergrip...

community · February 5th, 2009, 05:03 PM

it does not cover the trigger, therefore I will not use it.

HowardCohodas · February 5th, 2009, 06:48 PM

This is my EDC: M&P 45fs, Crimson Trace LaserGrips, Insight XTI Procyon weapon light and a ClipDraw

This is primarily carried in a SmartCarry holster, however access is less than desirable while driving. The ClipDraw allows me to carry at 10:00 for a cross draw while also keeping it away from passengers, friendly or otherwise.

I am completely befuddled by all the comments about the trigger not being covered. When using the ClipDraw, the trigger is completely covered by my belt and pants permitting no intrusion through covering to engage the trigger.

QKShooter · February 5th, 2009, 08:21 PM

The OP is asking about using a ClipDraw for a 1911.
The engaged Thumb Safety on a 1911 physically blocks the the hammer from moving forward and the grip safety physically blocks the trigger from moving back so really a "covered trigger guard" is not so necessary for a 1911 pattern firearm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by community

it does not cover the trigger, therefore I will not use it.

M1911A1 · February 6th, 2009, 02:21 AM

I tried a Clipdraw on my 1911, long, long ago. I didn't like it.

First of all, there were no—repeat, no—safety issues with using it. The pistol's trigger was covered, and very safely too, by my own pants. There was absolutely no way that any "foreign" thing was going to find its way into the trigger guard—not even my shirt.
Second, the problem that I did have with it was that the clip was not optimally placed, and the 1911-model clip was not modifiable. The center-of-gravity of the loaded pistol is kept high, which causes it to rotate somewhat around the fulcrum of the clip. It wasn't unsafe or dangerous, it wouldn't fall out of my pants, but the pistol's grip wasn't always where I expected it to be.
But, third, my wife and I later (much later) tested the version made for attachment to non-1911 semi-autos for a review in Concealed Carry Magazine, and found it a better idea. The so-called Universal Model attaches with adhesive, so you can put it wherever you prefer it on your gun. Thus, you can easily adjust the way your weapon sits, and stays, inside your waistband. The Universal Model's prong is a little too tight, but that's easy to fix. The adhesive supplied with it really grips permanently, although it comes off easily when you know the trick. The S&W semi-auto in the previous-but-one post is sporting the Universal Model Clipdraw.
Last, we also found that the S&W-snubbie model Clipdraw was a very well designed, very useful carry method. We recommend it, if you own the appropriate gun.

HowardCohodas · February 6th, 2009, 04:49 AM

M1911A1,

Thanks for your post. It reminded me that I should identify the Universal version as it is the only one I use. Choosing my own mounting location for balance and trigger coverage was essential to me. I even have one for my LCP but have not mounted it yet.

frankmako · February 6th, 2009, 08:33 AM

to me it is the best thing around. i got one one a s&w model 60. makes for easy carry, the gun hides better than any holster. i got the kel tec clip on a p11 and p3at. now you are going to have people that gets upset about not having a holster and the trigger cover. but,,,,if you come to think about it the trigger is covered,,your paints cover it. been on the job for over 30 years and i have never seen a gun go off from someone paints pulling the trigger,,, only seen guns going off when someone has put their fringer on the trigger and pulled it. so bottom line is i would try it,,,you might like it.

February 5th, 2009, 04:25 PM	#12
Thumper VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 5,597	Some like 'em but you couldn't give me one. I want my trigger covered in a holster. No modified "Mex" carry for me. __________________ USMC 1968-1971 ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell! *"Don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things!"*

February 5th, 2009, 04:27 PM	#13
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 23,502	LeCalsey If you want to try one (cheap) PM me - I have a dealer sample sitting around that has never been used. PM me. IMPORTANT: You need to make certain that your 1911 is properly functioning and that it has a stiff Thumb Safety that will not move to "Off Safe" position on its own accord.

February 5th, 2009, 05:03 PM	#15
community Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: white lake Posts: 896	it does not cover the trigger, therefore I will not use it. __________________ *Save a Greyhound. Adopt one.*

February 5th, 2009, 06:48 PM	#16
HowardCohodas Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canton, OH Posts: 852	This is my EDC: M&P 45fs, Crimson Trace LaserGrips, Insight XTI Procyon weapon light and a ClipDraw This is primarily carried in a SmartCarry holster, however access is less than desirable while driving. The ClipDraw allows me to carry at 10:00 for a cross draw while also keeping it away from passengers, friendly or otherwise. I am completely befuddled by all the comments about the trigger not being covered. When using the ClipDraw, the trigger is completely covered by my belt and pants permitting no intrusion through covering to engage the trigger. __________________ Howard *I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop!!*

February 6th, 2009, 02:21 AM	#18
M1911A1 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northwest Washington State Posts: 51	I tried a Clipdraw on my 1911, long, long ago. I didn't like it. First of all, there were no—repeat, no—safety issues with using it. The pistol's trigger was covered, and very safely too, by my own pants. There was absolutely no way that any "foreign" thing was going to find its way into the trigger guard—not even my shirt. Second, the problem that I did have with it was that the clip was not optimally placed, and the 1911-model clip was not modifiable. The center-of-gravity of the loaded pistol is kept high, which causes it to rotate somewhat around the fulcrum of the clip. It wasn't unsafe or dangerous, it wouldn't fall out of my pants, but the pistol's grip wasn't always where I expected it to be. But, third, my wife and I later (much later) tested the version made for attachment to non-1911 semi-autos for a review in Concealed Carry Magazine, and found it a better idea. The so-called Universal Model attaches with adhesive, so you can put it wherever you prefer it on your gun. Thus, you can easily adjust the way your weapon sits, and stays, inside your waistband. The Universal Model's prong is a little too tight, but that's easy to fix. The adhesive supplied with it really grips permanently, although it comes off easily when you know the trick. The S&W semi-auto in the previous-but-one post is sporting the Universal Model Clipdraw. Last, we also found that the S&W-snubbie model Clipdraw was a very well designed, very useful carry method. We recommend it, if you own the appropriate gun. __________________ Steve Retired Leathersmith and Practical Shooter "Qui desiderat pacem, præparet bellum."

February 5th, 2009, 04:19 PM	#11
OhShoot Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: TN Posts: 439	Yeah, every time ClipDraw is mentioned, we have to have 75% response rate about how unsafe it is. On the other hand, have never read about ONE documented (or even claimed, for that matter) discharge caused by the ClipDraw. Not one. However, the occurrence of AD/ND while reholstering into traditional holsters is well know. - OS

February 5th, 2009, 04:53 PM	#14
MikeGoob Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 129	I have a clip draw on my Ruger Sp101 I got it more as an option, I dont really use it as the only carrying method. One thing to keep in mind, with my gun anyway, you cant use it in conjunction with a Crimson Trace lasergrip...

February 6th, 2009, 04:49 AM	#19
HowardCohodas Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canton, OH Posts: 852	M1911A1, Thanks for your post. It reminded me that I should identify the Universal version as it is the only one I use. Choosing my own mounting location for balance and trigger coverage was essential to me. I even have one for my LCP but have not mounted it yet. __________________ Howard *I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop!!*

February 6th, 2009, 08:33 AM	#20
frankmako VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 2,498	to me it is the best thing around. i got one one a s&w model 60. makes for easy carry, the gun hides better than any holster. i got the kel tec clip on a p11 and p3at. now you are going to have people that gets upset about not having a holster and the trigger cover. but,,,,if you come to think about it the trigger is covered,,your paints cover it. been on the job for over 30 years and i have never seen a gun go off from someone paints pulling the trigger,,, only seen guns going off when someone has put their fringer on the trigger and pulled it. so bottom line is i would try it,,,you might like it. __________________ An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. Red State State of Mind

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