Going beltless carry with a Kahr PM9

ev239 · February 15th, 2009, 02:56 PM

Ok, I was in a rush with that last holster attempt and didn't fully commit to the process. I tried to wear it for an hour yesterday and it was pretty terrible. So I went ahead and started a holster from scratch.

Here's what I came up with. It's a scabbard design held together using one larger rivet and using two grip clips as attachment points onto the waistband. It's molded so that the gun is locked in if tried to draw straight up. To draw smoothly the gun must be pulled out to an angle instead of straight up. Here it is.

Just for fun I wore it for over 3 hours to dinner along with my S&W 469 both up front at centerline carry. I was surprised it was pretty comfortable even though I'm not used to carrying at the 11:00-11:30 position.

I know it looks funny, but it worked with a sweater over it. During most of the year I don't usually go about without a belt on so I don't intend on using this holster all that often. It is the best option I have for my Kahr when belt-less so I'm glad I have it in my holster stable.

Here's a short video showing it in action:
YouTube - Grip Clip Kydex Holster for a Kahr PM9

To get a better look at it check out my post on my blog - Hidden Defense: Grip Clip Holster for a Kahr PM9

OhShoot · February 15th, 2009, 03:57 PM

"Beltless"?

You're wearing a belt, so I don't get it.

- OS

ev239 · February 15th, 2009, 04:01 PM

Sorry if there was any confusion. Beltless means I can wear the holster without a belt since it clips onto the pants. Yes, in that picture I am wearing a belt, but the point is the holster can be used without one.

ev239 · February 15th, 2009, 04:09 PM

Here's a picture of it beltless as it's intended.

rocky · February 15th, 2009, 09:35 PM

Looks good. I found for me IWB with appendix carry is too uncomfortable sitting. However a high ride belt slot holster works well.
Those clips should work great for beltless carry , especially if you are wearing shorts that do not take a belt.

muddy · February 15th, 2009, 10:02 PM

Very nice. Where did you find your clips? By the way your welcome for the idea.

ev239 · February 16th, 2009, 09:13 AM

I found the clips at seattlefabrics.com in the misc section of hardware. Miscellaneous Hardware

They were $1.20 per clip.

semperfi.45 · February 16th, 2009, 03:48 PM

That's just a great idea.

bklynboy · February 16th, 2009, 05:54 PM

That is brilliant. It solves a problem I posted about a few weeks ago regarding a holster for my PM9 that I could wear with beltless jeans or sweats. I think there is a market for that design if you wanted to go commercial with it

PNUT · February 17th, 2009, 02:37 AM

Definitely a market for it. Where does the line start ?

February 15th, 2009, 02:56 PM	#1
ev239 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 373	Going beltless carry with a Kahr PM9 Ok, I was in a rush with that last holster attempt and didn't fully commit to the process. I tried to wear it for an hour yesterday and it was pretty terrible. So I went ahead and started a holster from scratch. Here's what I came up with. It's a scabbard design held together using one larger rivet and using two grip clips as attachment points onto the waistband. It's molded so that the gun is locked in if tried to draw straight up. To draw smoothly the gun must be pulled out to an angle instead of straight up. Here it is. Just for fun I wore it for over 3 hours to dinner along with my S&W 469 both up front at centerline carry. I was surprised it was pretty comfortable even though I'm not used to carrying at the 11:00-11:30 position. I know it looks funny, but it worked with a sweater over it. During most of the year I don't usually go about without a belt on so I don't intend on using this holster all that often. It is the best option I have for my Kahr when belt-less so I'm glad I have it in my holster stable. Here's a short video showing it in action: YouTube - Grip Clip Kydex Holster for a Kahr PM9 To get a better look at it check out my post on my blog - Hidden Defense: Grip Clip Holster for a Kahr PM9 __________________ Mine: S&W 908.....Wife's: Ruger SP101 3" ------Kahr PM9...............Sig P239 (it's her's now) ------Norinco 213...........Charter Arms Undercover Hidden Defense - Personal gun & holster designs/reviews.

February 15th, 2009, 04:01 PM	#3
ev239 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 373	Sorry if there was any confusion. Beltless means I can wear the holster without a belt since it clips onto the pants. Yes, in that picture I am wearing a belt, but the point is the holster can be used without one. __________________ Mine: S&W 908.....Wife's: Ruger SP101 3" ------Kahr PM9...............Sig P239 (it's her's now) ------Norinco 213...........Charter Arms Undercover Hidden Defense - Personal gun & holster designs/reviews.

February 15th, 2009, 04:09 PM	#4
ev239 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 373	Here's a picture of it beltless as it's intended. __________________ Mine: S&W 908.....Wife's: Ruger SP101 3" ------Kahr PM9...............Sig P239 (it's her's now) ------Norinco 213...........Charter Arms Undercover Hidden Defense - Personal gun & holster designs/reviews.

February 15th, 2009, 09:35 PM	#5
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 13,080	Looks good. I found for me IWB with appendix carry is too uncomfortable sitting. However a high ride belt slot holster works well. Those clips should work great for beltless carry , especially if you are wearing shorts that do not take a belt. __________________ "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson Nemo Me Impune Lacesset Link to my kydex builds:http://rocknloadkydex.blogspot.com/

February 16th, 2009, 09:13 AM	#7
ev239 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 373	I found the clips at seattlefabrics.com in the misc section of hardware. Miscellaneous Hardware They were $1.20 per clip. __________________ Mine: S&W 908.....Wife's: Ruger SP101 3" ------Kahr PM9...............Sig P239 (it's her's now) ------Norinco 213...........Charter Arms Undercover Hidden Defense - Personal gun & holster designs/reviews.

February 15th, 2009, 03:57 PM	#2
OhShoot Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: TN Posts: 439	"Beltless"? You're wearing a belt, so I don't get it. - OS

February 15th, 2009, 10:02 PM	#6
muddy Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Utah Posts: 126	Very nice. Where did you find your clips? By the way your welcome for the idea.

February 16th, 2009, 03:48 PM	#8
semperfi.45 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Over here now! Posts: 3,343	That's just a great idea. __________________ My art is different from yours; it consists not in defeating others, but in not being defeated.

February 16th, 2009, 05:54 PM	#9
bklynboy Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: VA Posts: 87	That is brilliant. It solves a problem I posted about a few weeks ago regarding a holster for my PM9 that I could wear with beltless jeans or sweats. I think there is a market for that design if you wanted to go commercial with it

February 17th, 2009, 02:37 AM	#10
PNUT Ex Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: TN Posts: 913	Definitely a market for it. Where does the line start ?

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