Deep IWB holster help- suggest a maker?

tellico · February 19th, 2009, 01:04 AM

I want to upgrade my make-do favorite carry method. I think I need a custom holster maker in order to get what I really want, but none that I have seen have a deep carry design that they could modify to suit my needs. I like to carry my Kahr PM9 IWB at 2:00-2:30 (under the pocket area of my jeans) in a DeSantis Insider (deep concealment, and not made for my model gun- way too long) holster:

The Insider has no cant, but I push the holster so it rides crooked so that the barrel of the gun slides to the outside of my leg when I sit down, rather than poking straight down on my thigh.

I want a holster based on this design, but with the following modifications:
1) 20 deg cant (so I'm not just wearing it crooked on my belt)
2) molded to my gun for fit/retention
3) made for my model gun, so there is not so much excess leather hanging off the end!
4) smaller clip (or snap/loop would be fine) to fit snugly on my 1 1/4" belt

Can anyone suggest where to go for such a custom rig? the design is simple, but none of the "custom" (aka hand-made) holster makers have this design.

Also, while I'm waiting, do you think the nylon version (with a mag pouch!) would be more comfortable? retention will be no different compared to my leather insider, because the leather holster is not molded and is really too big for my gun. Here is the nylon deep cover model:

Images are directly from the desantis website: DeSantis Holster & Leather Goods

Pure Kustom · February 19th, 2009, 02:32 AM

Is that deep enough?

Thumper · February 19th, 2009, 02:35 AM

Ah... well, there you have it!

Look NO further!

ELCruisr · February 19th, 2009, 08:43 AM

I'd call up several custom makers and talk to them about your specific desires. The good ones will tell you if they have something they think will work well or that they could make to suit your needs.

tellico · February 19th, 2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pure Kustom

Is that deep enough?

Maybe... When I get home this evening I'll take a picture of my actual gun in the holster and wearing it so you can see how it really rides, since it rides deeper in the desantis than the pictured glock does (mostly because the holster is actually too big for it, but I like the result)

BTW I went to your website, very cool work! and the coming soon holster grips look AWESOME!!! I use a hogue handall on all my plastic guns for comfort wearing against the body- how cool to have a custom option available soon!!

past60 · February 19th, 2009, 06:07 PM

You should probably look at Bell Charter Oak's A.C.E. It's intended for small autos, but he's been good at adapting designs if possible. He might be able to do something with the PM9. Also ask him about a "push-up" option to aid with the draw. I use his deep drop for my Colt Agent revolver and it is a favorite for me. I'm not sure about cant alteration, but "old flatfoot" might do it if it's practical.

tellico · February 19th, 2009, 11:03 PM

Thank you for the A.C.E. recommendation, it may be closer to what I am looking for. I have taken some pics to show how I "cant" my no-cant holster when worn (which really just either makes the clip crooked on my belt or, as in this picture, bends the belt), as well as how deep the gun rides. In the pictures of the gun/holster combo, you can see where the excesses are- if I could chop off the excess, add better fit, and turn the clip, it would be just right :)

itschuck · February 20th, 2009, 07:23 AM

Desantis makes the Tuck This 2, its adjustable. Take a look at it.

February 19th, 2009, 01:04 AM	#1
tellico Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Posts: 91	Deep IWB holster help- suggest a maker? I want to upgrade my make-do favorite carry method. I think I need a custom holster maker in order to get what I really want, but none that I have seen have a deep carry design that they could modify to suit my needs. I like to carry my Kahr PM9 IWB at 2:00-2:30 (under the pocket area of my jeans) in a DeSantis Insider (deep concealment, and not made for my model gun- way too long) holster: The Insider has no cant, but I push the holster so it rides crooked so that the barrel of the gun slides to the outside of my leg when I sit down, rather than poking straight down on my thigh. I want a holster based on this design, but with the following modifications: 1) 20 deg cant (so I'm not just wearing it crooked on my belt) 2) molded to my gun for fit/retention 3) made for my model gun, so there is not so much excess leather hanging off the end! 4) smaller clip (or snap/loop would be fine) to fit snugly on my 1 1/4" belt Can anyone suggest where to go for such a custom rig? the design is simple, but none of the "custom" (aka hand-made) holster makers have this design. Also, while I'm waiting, do you think the nylon version (with a mag pouch!) would be more comfortable? retention will be no different compared to my leather insider, because the leather holster is not molded and is really too big for my gun. Here is the nylon deep cover model: Images are directly from the desantis website: DeSantis Holster & Leather Goods

February 19th, 2009, 02:32 AM	#2
Pure Kustom Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 590	Is that deep enough? __________________ "To save our country, Slap a liberal. To save it faster, Slap them again!!!!" www.purekustomholsters.com www.pkiholsters.com

February 19th, 2009, 02:35 AM	#3
Thumper VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Nevada Posts: 5,590	Ah... well, there you have it! Look NO further! __________________ USMC 1968-1971 ALWAYS carry! - NEVER tell! *"Don't go to stupid places, with stupid people, and do stupid things!"*

February 19th, 2009, 08:43 AM	#4
ELCruisr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central FL Posts: 2,071	I'd call up several custom makers and talk to them about your specific desires. The good ones will tell you if they have something they think will work well or that they could make to suit your needs. __________________ If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. ~ Thomas J. Watson, Jr.

February 20th, 2009, 07:23 AM	#8
itschuck Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 343	Desantis makes the Tuck This 2, its adjustable. Take a look at it. __________________ Current collection: NAA Guardian in 32naa, SIG P239 2-tone 40 with DAK, SW MP 40 Compact, Ruger SP101, Walther PP, SW 360 38+p Airweight, Browning Buckmark, SW Model 41

February 19th, 2009, 06:07 PM	#6
past60 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: michigan Posts: 68	You should probably look at Bell Charter Oak's A.C.E. It's intended for small autos, but he's been good at adapting designs if possible. He might be able to do something with the PM9. Also ask him about a "push-up" option to aid with the draw. I use his deep drop for my Colt Agent revolver and it is a favorite for me. I'm not sure about cant alteration, but "old flatfoot" might do it if it's practical.

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