between the Pants and Belt Holsters

raisedin99 · February 25th, 2009, 11:25 AM

I feel that i would like a concealment holster that would be a combination of OWB and IWB such as a between the pants and belt holster for my S&W M&P9.

I am seeking info from UBG Holsters for his thoughts on this as I like the look of his holsters.

anyone else have thoughts on the concept, delfatti shows them but are backlogged ...

southbound · February 25th, 2009, 11:57 AM

I know Dave was working on something like this. You may want to give him a call...

ttsail · February 25th, 2009, 12:27 PM

I also saw some nice between the belt designs from Caldwell Gunleather
I do not know if he is still doing them.

highvoltage · February 25th, 2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by raisedin99

......anyone else have thoughts on the concept...

I'm not sure I agree with Delfatti's statement that it conceals nearly as well as an IWB holster. The only part being covered is where the belt slides through. The remainder of the holster is open and just as unconcealed as an OWB holster, IMHO. I do agree with their statement about how tightly the holster is retained against the body, but concealment is debatable.

JerryM · February 25th, 2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by highvoltage

I'm not sure I agree with Delfatti's statement that it conceals nearly as well as an IWB holster. The only part being covered is where the belt slides through. The remainder of the holster is open and just as unconcealed as an OWB holster, IMHO. I do agree with their statement about how tightly the holster is retained against the body, but concealment is debatable.

I tend to agree with you. A good pancake will stay as close to the body. If it prints then the between the belt and pants will also. I do not think the Askins design will hold as close to the body.

Unless one wants an IWB holster to use both outside the pants and IWB I fail to see the usefulness of wearing a holster between the pants and the belt.

Regards,
Jerry

rccolt.45 · February 26th, 2009, 06:31 PM

One problem with them is belt loop placement. If the loop is in the wrong place on your waist you can't place the holster where you want it. The only other alternative is to move the belt loop and thats just a pain.

AZ Husker · February 26th, 2009, 06:56 PM

Can anyone tell me the BENEFITS of one?

QKShooter · February 26th, 2009, 07:51 PM

No offense intended but, I never saw the sense of them.
I'd just go with a well designed top quality OWB combined with a good gun belt.
That will pull the firearm in very nice and close.
Just my personal o-penguin.

Dakota97 · February 26th, 2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ Husker

Can anyone tell me the BENEFITS of one?

I'm still trying to figure that one out. ISP, I understand...OSB, I understand, but between the belt and pants, I have no idea. Maybe one of the holster makers can tell us what benefit they provide.

Matt Del Fatti · February 26th, 2009, 11:07 PM

The design does have limitations. I think they make the most sense for someone who would like to belt carry a small pistol like a Seecamp or Rohrbaugh. While you can utilize some inside the waistband designs for BPB use, the inside the waistband design with snapped straps aren't as streamlined and can interfere with acquiring a grip on the small pistol butt. The BPB minimizes bulk and still provides a reinforced collar.

Pistols in that size range can be very difficult to carry inside the waistband unless the size of the holster body is enlarged to help stablize them. They are very stable in a BPB holster and since the muzzle doesn't extend very far past the bottom of the belt, they are nearly as concealable as an inside the waistband type holster.

February 25th, 2009, 11:25 AM	#1
raisedin99 New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: us Posts: 1	between the Pants and Belt Holsters I feel that i would like a concealment holster that would be a combination of OWB and IWB such as a between the pants and belt holster for my S&W M&P9. I am seeking info from UBG Holsters for his thoughts on this as I like the look of his holsters. anyone else have thoughts on the concept, delfatti shows them but are backlogged ...

February 25th, 2009, 11:57 AM	#2
southbound Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: tn Posts: 242	I know Dave was working on something like this. You may want to give him a call... __________________ “Dollars and guns are no substitutes for brains and will power” Dwight D Eisenhower Here are some of my holsters http://handkholsters.blogspot.com/

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ttsail Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Middletown,CA Posts: 46	I also saw some nice between the belt designs from Caldwell Gunleather I do not know if he is still doing them. __________________ www.ttgunleather.com

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AZ Husker VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3,575	Can anyone tell me the BENEFITS of one? __________________ Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse.

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February 26th, 2009, 06:31 PM	#6
rccolt.45 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: richmond Posts: 53	One problem with them is belt loop placement. If the loop is in the wrong place on your waist you can't place the holster where you want it. The only other alternative is to move the belt loop and thats just a pain.

February 26th, 2009, 07:51 PM	#8
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 23,479	No offense intended but, I never saw the sense of them. I'd just go with a well designed top quality OWB combined with a good gun belt. That will pull the firearm in very nice and close. Just my personal o-penguin.

February 26th, 2009, 11:07 PM	#10
Matt Del Fatti Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The North Woods Posts: 141	The design does have limitations. I think they make the most sense for someone who would like to belt carry a small pistol like a Seecamp or Rohrbaugh. While you can utilize some inside the waistband designs for BPB use, the inside the waistband design with snapped straps aren't as streamlined and can interfere with acquiring a grip on the small pistol butt. The BPB minimizes bulk and still provides a reinforced collar. Pistols in that size range can be very difficult to carry inside the waistband unless the size of the holster body is enlarged to help stablize them. They are very stable in a BPB holster and since the muzzle doesn't extend very far past the bottom of the belt, they are nearly as concealable as an inside the waistband type holster.