Beltman - Curb your expectations

Uechi · April 8th, 2009, 07:07 PM

I guess they make good belts, I wouldn't know. Their site says shipment is approximately 30 days from your order date. I'm about 2days from shipment so I decided I'd check and see how things were going on my order. I received an e-mail stating that my belt was 10 days away from being put in production and two weeks way from shipping. The rationale is that they are swamped. I understand that belts, holsters ammo and guns have been flying out of stores, but if there production schedule has stretched out they should change the delivery schedule promise. Nothing annoys people more than a delivery promise that isn't met except a crappy product. I purchased a Kydex Holster and magazine holder from Comp Tac and they provide there current production schedule on line and they update it as it changes. I think Beltman should do the same. I am annoyed to say the least and have to reschedule my SD course because of there slip. A simple e-mail telling me of the delay would have been nice instead of me having to ask for status. I hope their belts are better than their customer service.

Der Alte · April 8th, 2009, 07:15 PM

You may be annoyed or just impatient but hang in there and I think you will be very pleased with the product. They have a very small operation and do outstanding work. They usually make their promised delivery date. Mine took 30 days and I only live 50 miles from their factory.

SouthernZ71 · April 8th, 2009, 07:23 PM

The Belt man makes the best gun belts on the market!

And they are very buisy for that VERY reason. They WILL NOT "hurry up" production and try to "push out" more orders than they can because they beleve in quality not quantity.

They promptly and accurately updated your order status on your request. I see this as great service.
If they took the time to send out HUNDREDS of emails a day telling people it would be a week or two longer on there order they would be loosing even more production time and getting less orders out the door.

There site says, and you agree it reads "approximately 30 days".
I wouldnt call that a Guarantee by any means. I would say thats an estimation.
Approximately to me could mean look for it to ship in 25 days or it could take 45 days.

Sit back relax. Hate you had to cancel a course because it will ship later than you had planned. But once you get your order in you will be a happy beltman customer. I can tell you that!

johnsonabq · April 8th, 2009, 07:30 PM

My belt was a couple of days late but that's OK. It's a great product. I also was scheduled for a SD course before I knew I'd ever get the belt and just did it with another one. I don't see how that could make you unable to take a course.

Silver Wolf · April 8th, 2009, 09:08 PM

I finally purchased one because I have seen the product and had to had one to go w/ my DelFatti rig.
When I spoke to them, they said they were behind and asked if it were an issue... I told them no.
I understand you needed it for an event but you have to add the Murphy factor into most things in this industy. Heck, you have to add that to life, as far as I can see.
I am not insult you, just letting you know everyone in this industry is doing the best they can. This is a prosperous time but a very hectic one that has repercussions on not just the customer but the maker/builders/smiths/cobblers as well.
I have to wager that 99% of all makers are perfectionists, or should be, and won't release anything just to get it out there. You can see in the gun industry, that is happening alot: Ruger, Kimber, Springfield are all behind and I have spoken to many who have received bad products because they were thrown together. They were then sent back to be repaired and one friend sold it the day it returned.
I have one customer who waited 9 months for a Glock that was supposed to be there in 30 days.......

Uechi · April 8th, 2009, 09:55 PM

You guys all miss the point. I have no problem waiting for something longer than originally promised if the seller takes the time to let you know they are going to be late and not on day 28. I'm sure they knew quite awhile ago that they were swamped and could not deliver to there website date. OK just let people know. If I hadn't sent an e-mail I don't think I'd of heard a thing. It may be prosperous time for the gun industry, but it isn't for most people. There are lots of people out of work including me. The country spending money we don't have and high unemployment is not what I consider prosperous. Oh by the way your holsters look great. I plan on buying one when I have the money. 9 months for a Glock I don't think so unless it is custom. Regards

kpw · April 8th, 2009, 10:23 PM

Uechi, I know what your saying. I wish they all were as fast as Comp-Tac! Hate to see you miss a course over it. I could send you a loaner if your anywhere near my size. Let me know.

Rigrat · April 9th, 2009, 06:02 AM

I got a email from them on the 4th stating mine was 7 production days away and was asked to please give it another 10 days. They simply stated they are swamped.

I don't have a problem waiting till then. I think , do to all the reviews I've heard on them that it will be well worth the wait. As I plan on trying to carry my 45 goverment model in a SuperTuck I wanted to get the best belt I could afford. There belts are very reasonably priced and have a great reputation.

Kinda like waiting on Christmas , sometimes drives you crazy but in the end well worth the wait.

Hang in there you will be glad you did.

Silver Wolf · April 9th, 2009, 08:33 AM

Got it....
Yeah, I understand the "promise date" vs. the website date... I can't argue there....
I can't say much, I have been guilty of that a few times but I really try to let people know.

The prosperity I was discussing was in this,the gun industry. Makers are backlogged for months.... I didn't mean "this country" that is for darn sure. I hired my partner, George, when he was laid off. We had been discussing a good time to transfer over when he got his slip... I have a few friends/customers who are in a similar situation and it sucks!! No lie, hands down sucks!

Did not mean to ditract from the discussion.

Good luck to you.

johnsonabq · April 9th, 2009, 08:56 AM

Words of wisdom...

God, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
the courage to change the things I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.

Sorry, don't mean to preach but I thought this applied here.

Peace.

April 8th, 2009, 07:07 PM	#1
Uechi Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: West Central, FLorida Posts: 123	Beltman - Curb your expectations I guess they make good belts, I wouldn't know. Their site says shipment is approximately 30 days from your order date. I'm about 2days from shipment so I decided I'd check and see how things were going on my order. I received an e-mail stating that my belt was 10 days away from being put in production and two weeks way from shipping. The rationale is that they are swamped. I understand that belts, holsters ammo and guns have been flying out of stores, but if there production schedule has stretched out they should change the delivery schedule promise. Nothing annoys people more than a delivery promise that isn't met except a crappy product. I purchased a Kydex Holster and magazine holder from Comp Tac and they provide there current production schedule on line and they update it as it changes. I think Beltman should do the same. I am annoyed to say the least and have to reschedule my SD course because of there slip. A simple e-mail telling me of the delay would have been nice instead of me having to ask for status. I hope their belts are better than their customer service.

April 8th, 2009, 07:15 PM	#2
Der Alte Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Goldsboro, NC Posts: 1,232	You may be annoyed or just impatient but hang in there and I think you will be very pleased with the product. They have a very small operation and do outstanding work. They usually make their promised delivery date. Mine took 30 days and I only live 50 miles from their factory. __________________ Its a shame that youth is wasted on the young.

April 8th, 2009, 07:23 PM	#3
SouthernZ71 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 128	The Belt man makes the best gun belts on the market! And they are very buisy for that VERY reason. They WILL NOT "hurry up" production and try to "push out" more orders than they can because they beleve in quality not quantity. They promptly and accurately updated your order status on your request. I see this as great service. If they took the time to send out HUNDREDS of emails a day telling people it would be a week or two longer on there order they would be loosing even more production time and getting less orders out the door. There site says, and you agree it reads "approximately 30 days". I wouldnt call that a Guarantee by any means. I would say thats an estimation. Approximately to me could mean look for it to ship in 25 days or it could take 45 days. Sit back relax. Hate you had to cancel a course because it will ship later than you had planned. But once you get your order in you will be a happy beltman customer. I can tell you that! __________________ <><><><><> Grass Roots North Carolina <><><><><> NRA Life Member

April 8th, 2009, 07:30 PM	#4
johnsonabq Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 488	My belt was a couple of days late but that's OK. It's a great product. I also was scheduled for a SD course before I knew I'd ever get the belt and just did it with another one. I don't see how that could make you unable to take a course. __________________ Jeff NRA Member Kimber Ultra Carry II, Glock G23 & G36, Kahr PM9, Winchester 1300 Defender 12gauge pump (my favorite but hard to hide)

April 8th, 2009, 09:08 PM	#5
Silver Wolf Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 266	Beltman I finally purchased one because I have seen the product and had to had one to go w/ my DelFatti rig. When I spoke to them, they said they were behind and asked if it were an issue... I told them no. I understand you needed it for an event but you have to add the Murphy factor into most things in this industy. Heck, you have to add that to life, as far as I can see. I am not insult you, just letting you know everyone in this industry is doing the best they can. This is a prosperous time but a very hectic one that has repercussions on not just the customer but the maker/builders/smiths/cobblers as well. I have to wager that 99% of all makers are perfectionists, or should be, and won't release anything just to get it out there. You can see in the gun industry, that is happening alot: Ruger, Kimber, Springfield are all behind and I have spoken to many who have received bad products because they were thrown together. They were then sent back to be repaired and one friend sold it the day it returned. I have one customer who waited 9 months for a Glock that was supposed to be there in 30 days....... __________________ Dave Little Bear Holsters http://www.littlebearholsters.com/ Mission first.... Soldiers ALWAYS!

April 8th, 2009, 09:55 PM	#6
Uechi Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: West Central, FLorida Posts: 123	You guys all miss the point. I have no problem waiting for something longer than originally promised if the seller takes the time to let you know they are going to be late and not on day 28. I'm sure they knew quite awhile ago that they were swamped and could not deliver to there website date. OK just let people know. If I hadn't sent an e-mail I don't think I'd of heard a thing. It may be prosperous time for the gun industry, but it isn't for most people. There are lots of people out of work including me. The country spending money we don't have and high unemployment is not what I consider prosperous. Oh by the way your holsters look great. I plan on buying one when I have the money. 9 months for a Glock I don't think so unless it is custom. Regards

April 8th, 2009, 10:23 PM	#7
kpw Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PA Posts: 1,116	Uechi, I know what your saying. I wish they all were as fast as Comp-Tac! Hate to see you miss a course over it. I could send you a loaner if your anywhere near my size. Let me know.

April 9th, 2009, 06:02 AM	#8
Rigrat Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South Posts: 199	I got a email from them on the 4th stating mine was 7 production days away and was asked to please give it another 10 days. They simply stated they are swamped. I don't have a problem waiting till then. I think , do to all the reviews I've heard on them that it will be well worth the wait. As I plan on trying to carry my 45 goverment model in a SuperTuck I wanted to get the best belt I could afford. There belts are very reasonably priced and have a great reputation. Kinda like waiting on Christmas , sometimes drives you crazy but in the end well worth the wait. Hang in there you will be glad you did.

April 9th, 2009, 08:33 AM	#9
Silver Wolf Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 266	Gotcha ya... Got it.... Yeah, I understand the "promise date" vs. the website date... I can't argue there.... I can't say much, I have been guilty of that a few times but I really try to let people know. The prosperity I was discussing was in this,the gun industry. Makers are backlogged for months.... I didn't mean "this country" that is for darn sure. I hired my partner, George, when he was laid off. We had been discussing a good time to transfer over when he got his slip... I have a few friends/customers who are in a similar situation and it sucks!! No lie, hands down sucks! Did not mean to ditract from the discussion. Good luck to you. __________________ Dave Little Bear Holsters http://www.littlebearholsters.com/ Mission first.... Soldiers ALWAYS!

April 9th, 2009, 08:56 AM	#10
johnsonabq Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 488	Words of wisdom... God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference. Sorry, don't mean to preach but I thought this applied here. Peace. __________________ Jeff NRA Member Kimber Ultra Carry II, Glock G23 & G36, Kahr PM9, Winchester 1300 Defender 12gauge pump (my favorite but hard to hide)

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