TN_Mike

Simple, I'm tired of hearing and reading people pass on stupid info that they don't know anything about but have just "heard" some one else say. It's the same principal as those stupid forwarded and forwarded and forwarded emails from people about idiotic subjects that if anyone had taken 5 minutes to check on Snopes.com they could find out it is BS.

I think the SERPA is very well designed and I would hate to see someone new to carrying who was thinking about trying one out be warned off of it by someone who was talking out of their rear end.

Simple as that. You don't like the fact that I tried to demonstrate that a particular holster design that I happen to like a lot is safe and well designed, fine, don't read it. Roll your eyes and move on to the next thread. But unless I am mistaken and have completely missed the idea of this site and sites like it, this is what it is for. We post info and for discussion. And those of us who have been carrying a defensive sidearm for 20 years try to help out those who may be new to the concept.

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fotomaker57

Mike
Great job with the pictures and the thread. I don't have a serpa but have been thinking about trying one. Like you I also get tired of people trying to convince us that a holster is going to force your finger onto a trigger. If that was the case than all of us that use leather holsters should be having ND's as well. When I draw my weapon out of a leather holster my trigger finger is lining up just as yours does resting on the frame as the pistol clears leather. If you have a tendency to clench your hand the type of holster will not matter. Stay safe my friend.
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Mike, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but lets face it, how much of what we say do we really know versus what we've heard?

I know the four rules of firearms safety because I read them, not because I experienced them. I know Paris is in France but I've never been to Europe. I know electricity makes my computer work but I can't see it running in and out.

So when certain trainers ban the Serpa because they have identified an inordinate number of NDs, I listen. Counter that with the "Accessory of the Year" award that Serpa got from the NRA. What I get out of all this is that the Serpa is great for some people, but not others. This can be said about most weapons and holsters.

So, I'm glad it works for you. I might try one myself if they ever build one for the PT145. I think I can bypass it's weakness.

Thanks for posting the pics.

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JimmyC4

Mike, I totally agree with you. Have a Serpa for my G-36, mainly for open carry when fishing, hiking, etc. The retention adds some security yet doesn's slow down the draw. A great product.

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BAC

Okay, let me try to put it more eloquently, then. Do you think the multiple renowned firearms trainers who dislike the SERPA holster are doing so arbitrarily, especially as these people don't get any form of compensation for their opinions on one holster or another? Think about it. Blackeagle is exactly correct.

Debatable, and anecdotal at best. ALS holsters are likewise difficult to manipulate, and even a hooded holster becomes a SOB to get undone when you're trying to disarm an officer of their weapon. I'll let evidence speak for itself, if it can be shown.

Incorrect. It's been shown to be pretty common that when the finger depresses a button or lever under stress, it wants to stay depressed. That's the clenching effect I'm talking about. On no other type of holster is the booger hook required to be squeezed in order to release the retention device, making the SERPA a bit different. Maybe it's a fat-fingers thing, maybe it's more prone on some guns than others, but enough NDs have gone off to make some folks who are around guns professionally a little nervous. Some might call that a clue, and something worth investigating.


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Protect_All

I think Mike had a great post! I own a Serpa for my XD9 and I love it, but as others have said it's just a matter of preference. I work a high threat armed detail Fridays & Saturdays and the Serpa on my hip gives me a feeling of comfort due to the retention and ease of motion. I just purchased the drop leg platform and so far like it, but I'll put it to the test this weekend and we see how it works. To each his own in the world of firearms and carrying oc or cc. The Serpa may work wonders for me but to you it may not. It may not be due to a design flaw but just to what you feel comfortable with. Like the Marine say "this is my rifle there are many like it but this one is mine." Same with anything else. There are many variants of everything but it's up to you to make it your or not. To all the Marines on this board SEMPER FI and hopefully my example was a good one.

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Dal1Celt

Mike, My brother (an LEO down in Florida) LOVES his serpa's. I prefer my leather pancake, but listen to my brother's advice too.

You are exactly correct in stating what this site and other's like it are about.

But remember you are always going to have people disagree with you, no matter what (BAC this is not a slight directed at you).

Everyone will have thier own opinion, and as long as it works for you then you are correct.

Thanks for the post, I may yet get a serpa to go with my pancake and my G-Code (OC holster).

Chris

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tnroadrunner

OK I know this thread has gone on long enough, but first let me mention this. In my readings on the SERPA holster the one thing that was not mentioned here was if a stone or something gets lodged in the release area and you can't push the button in there is no way of getting the gun out without taking the holster apart. I look at it this way if there is a possiblity of something going wrong it is not for me.

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Protect_All

You're right about that, but with anything you have your pros cons and defects. Nothing is 100% fool proof or can stand up to every test without fail!
Look at semi auto handguns such as glocks, xds, s&w they're all capable of jamming defects due to rounds or other malfunctions, but you still carry one, correct?
I don't care if anyone likes the Serpa personally but you can't nock a product until you've tried and tested it. I know I'm comfortable with it and that's all that matters.

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BradyM77

You "experience" the four rules everyday you don't accidentally shoot somebody.

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