Milt Sparks VM2 vs. Del Fatti ISP-LP - Page 2

randyc74 · July 2nd, 2009, 09:22 AM

Both are excellant holster makers. You may have to wait, but you won't go wrong with either maker.

JoeyBones · July 2nd, 2009, 12:51 PM

I own multiple VM-2's and one DelFatti ISP-4 (I know, not the LP, but still a DelFatti IWB)... They are, IMO, equals in terms of utility and concealability (which is a huge endorsement for the Sparks rig)...

However, that said, DelFatti is simply in another league when it comes to the details... Details like the sight-track lining up EXACTLY equidistant from either side of the front sight... Like the edging, stitching, boning, finishing, all being PERFECTLY done... The retention being somehow magically perfect (no doubt a function of the aforementioned perfection in the boning)...

As others have said, you will definitely need to scour the boards and have your money ready to immediately pounce on a DelFatti IF you happen upon one (I've seen them go for north of $350, and quickly). Last I heard, Lightning Arms had no ETA on their next DelFatti shipment...

In my opinion, howver, this is an easy choice for the OP - Get the Sparks... At least you can order and have it in 6 months or so (or call Lightning... They stock Sparks also)... And you honestly will not regret it - VM-2 is a wonderful holster - One of my favorite IWB's I've ever tried...

Hope this helped a bit...

Regards,

Bones

Recka81 · July 2nd, 2009, 04:06 PM

Thank you for the information! I did end up getting the Del Fatti ISP-LP from Lightning Arms. It should arrive Monday... needless to say, I can't wait!

JoeyBones · July 2nd, 2009, 04:52 PM

Ahh, what I meant to say is that for my EDC (P7M8), Lightning had no ETA on the next DelFatti shipment...

Congrats on the purchase! You will be amazed at the quality.

BTW, what pistol is this for? *Nevermind - I re-read the first post - Kimber CDP*

Regards,

Bones

Dakota97 · July 2nd, 2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recka81

Thank you for the information! I did end up getting the Del Fatti ISP-LP from Lightning Arms. It should arrive Monday... needless to say, I can't wait!

I'm sure you will be happy with the Del Fatti. Matt is one of the finest makers out there. Congratulations on finding one in stock with no long wait.

JerryM · July 3rd, 2009, 12:45 AM

Today Lightning Arms had at least one Del Fatti OWB LPS for a 4 inch 1911.
Without a doubt "They don't get no better than Matt." He is a gentleman to boot.

Regards,
Jerry

Matt Del Fatti · July 3rd, 2009, 12:37 PM

Thank you for all the kind assessment of my work. I work hard to build the best gear I can and it's nice to have the effort noticed.

I did want to make a point however. Too often, IWB holsters with fore and aft loops are viewed by many as "the same design". Tony's VMII design differs from most (except the ones that are direct copies of his original design) in that it incorporates a wrap around steel reinforced collar to a pancake construction. Although I can reinforce the wall of the holster mouth as those ordered by Lightning Arms, the ISP-LP was never intended to provide the long term hard use durability of a steel reinforced wrap around collar. The primary goal of the design was to maximize carry comfort by spreading out the loops to broaden the weight bearing footprint on the belt and for the back of the holster to present a smooth "plate" of leather against the body. I have other designs intended to cover the long term hard use need. While Tony's design was original (as in the first of it's kind), the concept of mine was derived from a design for an IWB/OWB convertable pancake holster first built (as far as I know) by Thad Rybka. That, in turn, can be traced back to Roy Baker's original pancake holster design.

I thought some of you might find that of interest.

bstrawse · July 3rd, 2009, 04:05 PM

I have 2 Milt Sparks VM2s - for 3" and 5" 1911's - they're both awesome holsters that I would recommend for anyone for any firearm.

I haven't seen a Del Fatti in person but they look fantastic online.
b

Dakota97 · July 3rd, 2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bstrawse

I haven't seen a Del Fatti in person but they look fantastic online.
b

They look even better up close and "in person".

eddyb45 · July 3rd, 2009, 11:31 PM

Del Fatti for my Ed Brown Special Forces Gov. Nothing Better..

July 2nd, 2009, 09:22 AM	#11
randyc74 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 111	Both are excellant holster makers. You may have to wait, but you won't go wrong with either maker. __________________ Randy Bulldog Custom Gun Leather www.bulldogleathercompany.com

July 2nd, 2009, 12:51 PM	#12
JoeyBones Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 108	I own multiple VM-2's and one DelFatti ISP-4 (I know, not the LP, but still a DelFatti IWB)... They are, IMO, equals in terms of utility and concealability (which is a huge endorsement for the Sparks rig)... However, that said, DelFatti is simply in another league when it comes to the details... Details like the sight-track lining up EXACTLY equidistant from either side of the front sight... Like the edging, stitching, boning, finishing, all being PERFECTLY done... The retention being somehow magically perfect (no doubt a function of the aforementioned perfection in the boning)... As others have said, you will definitely need to scour the boards and have your money ready to immediately pounce on a DelFatti IF you happen upon one (I've seen them go for north of $350, and quickly). Last I heard, Lightning Arms had no ETA on their next DelFatti shipment... In my opinion, howver, this is an easy choice for the OP - Get the Sparks... At least you can order and have it in 6 months or so (or call Lightning... They stock Sparks also)... And you honestly will not regret it - VM-2 is a wonderful holster - One of my favorite IWB's I've ever tried... Hope this helped a bit... Regards, Bones __________________ "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein

July 2nd, 2009, 04:52 PM	#14
JoeyBones Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 108	Ahh, what I meant to say is that for my EDC (P7M8), Lightning had no ETA on the next DelFatti shipment... Congrats on the purchase! You will be amazed at the quality. BTW, what pistol is this for? Nevermind - I re-read the first post - Kimber CDP Regards, Bones __________________ "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -Albert Einstein

July 3rd, 2009, 04:05 PM	#18
bstrawse Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 119	I have 2 Milt Sparks VM2s - for 3" and 5" 1911's - they're both awesome holsters that I would recommend for anyone for any firearm. I haven't seen a Del Fatti in person but they look fantastic online. b __________________ NRA Life Member The Family: Kimbers, Glocks, Berettas, Springfields, Bushmasters, Milt Sparks, Crossbreed Supertucks.

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July 2nd, 2009, 04:06 PM	#13
Recka81 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 16	Thank you for the information! I did end up getting the Del Fatti ISP-LP from Lightning Arms. It should arrive Monday... needless to say, I can't wait!

July 3rd, 2009, 12:45 AM	#16
JerryM Distinguished Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,666	Today Lightning Arms had at least one Del Fatti OWB LPS for a 4 inch 1911. Without a doubt "They don't get no better than Matt." He is a gentleman to boot. Regards, Jerry

July 3rd, 2009, 12:37 PM	#17
Matt Del Fatti Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The North Woods Posts: 141	Thank you for all the kind assessment of my work. I work hard to build the best gear I can and it's nice to have the effort noticed. I did want to make a point however. Too often, IWB holsters with fore and aft loops are viewed by many as "the same design". Tony's VMII design differs from most (except the ones that are direct copies of his original design) in that it incorporates a wrap around steel reinforced collar to a pancake construction. Although I can reinforce the wall of the holster mouth as those ordered by Lightning Arms, the ISP-LP was never intended to provide the long term hard use durability of a steel reinforced wrap around collar. The primary goal of the design was to maximize carry comfort by spreading out the loops to broaden the weight bearing footprint on the belt and for the back of the holster to present a smooth "plate" of leather against the body. I have other designs intended to cover the long term hard use need. While Tony's design was original (as in the first of it's kind), the concept of mine was derived from a design for an IWB/OWB convertable pancake holster first built (as far as I know) by Thad Rybka. That, in turn, can be traced back to Roy Baker's original pancake holster design. I thought some of you might find that of interest.

July 3rd, 2009, 11:31 PM	#20
eddyb45 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Collierville, TN. Posts: 25	Del Fatti for my Ed Brown Special Forces Gov. Nothing Better..