AzQkr

Tangle;

Certainly pistols have their own characteristics and "feel", and the more one is comfortable and familiar with that, the better they likely will shoot.

The glocks are known to shoot high for some, the grip angle is different than that of others like the 1911, BHP's, etc. My g17 shot high for me as well, bit not enough in the distances of SD to make it matter for the most part.

In the classes, I can be handed about any revo or pistol and shoot it about as well or as well right away as my own carry weapons at the distances we train at [ 30 feet and under ], and so regularly to demonstrate it is not the gun but the person using that gun who makes the difference at threat focused skills.

I have my preferences in firearms like anyone else. Mine gravitate to the glocks [ 17 and 26 ], or the 1911's which I carried for over 20 years.

I'd like to know what 6 day point shooting school you went to and what system you were shown. I ask as there are several known workable systems. QK, QF, FAS, and Fistfire that I'm aware of. Each has their strengths and of course weaknesses dependant on time and distance requirements.

One can't be expected to shoot as well with a gun they are unfamiliar with initially, no matter if they use the sights or are shooting from the hip as in FAS or QK hip, or just below line of sight as in QK.

By "can't be expected" I mean there will be a learning curve of that platform to be comfortable and gain the skills with that tool to shoot as well as a tool they are as familiar with and have that "oneness" with.

The time it takes to become one with a firearm is as individual as the person him/herself. When I switched to the glocks, it took me some 2K through it to be where I was with the 1911's after a lot of years.

Now, if I shoot the 1911's, [ rarely ] they seem foreign to me, but familiar at the same time [ if that makes sense ], and I don't shoot them anywhere near as well as I did when I put 500-1K a week through them.

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Tangle

I think it would be inappropriate to disclose any more details about the school. The guy was a top notch shot - very impressive.

I understand the learning curve thing about switching guns, I just haven't seen an appreciable difference in guns that I would have expected to. That includes as I mentioned, switching from one gun to another in the middle of a drill or changing guns after a week of training with another gun. In fact, when I switched to the Glock my hits were actually better and my times faster, hence zero learning curve involved.

Tangle

I'm sorry Brownie, I kinda missed the larger point of your post - be at one with your gun. I certainly agree. I find that most gunowners, really don't spend enough time with their gun to even become familiar with it much less one with it. So I hope your message will be well received loud and clear and move us from talk to action.

Another thing I find is that most didn't learn good shooting techniques to begin with. It would be advantageous to get some professional instruction that will allow us to improve as we shoot.

AzQkr

Tangle,

I agree, most will not spend the time to really become one with their pistol of choice.

Hope the thread gets people to think about that as you mention and gets them out shooting more often.

I just got back from the range and banged out a quick 300 9mm's downrange with the g17 just to shoot some this week. Staying on top of the curve is the goal, it is easier to do that than fall behind the curve and get back to where you should be.

10-4 on the school.

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SIXTO

Hmm, interesting. I must be odd; I can become one with a lot of different guns. Yes, I have my preferred platforms and it does take some time to adjust from gun to gun. (Maybe a box of ammo worth of time)
I can shoot almost any quality pistol decent enough, but I have become "one" with my 1911's and Glocks. My G19 is my first choice for CCW.
Me and my Sigs have a special relationship. My 228 and 220 will become one with me if I make the effort to make them happy. The 228 is a little loose, she doesn’t even require dinner and movie, just some sweet talking and I'm in. I think she is trying to out the G19. The 220 is high maintenance, but once we become one, look out! We are one hot couple. The 220 is my first choice for my duty gun.
My Kahrs are just like a rebound, they know they will never take the place of the others, but they are easy and get the job done all the same.

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After a range session it must be time for

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I also found that just holding your gun a lot helps you become "one" with it. Many times I will unload my gun, and just hold it. Usually when I'm watching tv. It just feels natural to me after doing this, along with shooting it. My grip actually has improved on the gun too just from holding it. I'll hold it and squeeze it good, and now I notice that my grip is stronger on it.

I equate it to how my seat belt feels now. I never use to wear one except on the interstate. Now I wear it every single time I drive. Occasionally when I need to back my vehicle up and move it over a little bit to give extra room to another car that might park at the apartment, I don't put it on then. It's weird, but I feel like I'm naked.. like I will just slide right out of my seat. The seat belt feels so natural now, that I can't stand not wearing it.

That's kind of how my gun is now. It just feels right at home in my hand, like it was meant to be there.

mw1311

I shoot any 1911 as it was a extension of my arm. It's the way it points....draw it and the sights are aligned instantly with the target. However, i decided to carry a g23 whe i get my chl. until then i'll be practicing draws and shooting with it alot, hoping it will become as natural as a 1911.

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