rocky

anyone else go out and shoot 1 shot and see how accurate it is? I like to do this to judge my overall accuracy without a warm up. Same idea as sniper training. The first shot is the one you will be taking if it all goes bad.

P95Carry

Rocky - this actually has some relevance to my new thread HERE.

Indeed - I am more and more feeling that the first shot is ever critical and must count - so I do practice this drill quite a lot. Most was some ways back when I packed my SP-101 but need to do more of same much more with SIG.

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rocky

actually it got me thinking of how I train.

QKShooter

You and Chris are thinking on exactly the same mental plane.
By all means practice taking that critical first shot like your life depended on it.

duckhunter

I have found it interesting how different the first "cold" shot can be compared to the rest of the string. It is really noticable on some autos; my new K9 is usually 1 - 1.5" different from the first round to the rest of the group. Not as bad with the 1911, but still noticable. I guess that is a function of subtle differences in how it goes into battery (manual vs. recoil). For this reason a lot of the gun mags seem to fire the first round into a backstop prior to accuracy testing.

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Tangle

I do that too guys; that first cold shot is the most important one. It's at least indicative of what you and your equipment will do on "the" cold shot.

grnzbra

Would it make sense, then to practice a number of rounds loading only one into the mag at a time?

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As I was taught by sniper extraordinaire John Simpson, there is no such thing as one shot one kill. It is all about your group size, and hit probability. If you have a good, tight grouping then you know the area your first shot will fall within. I would like to believe this holds true with handguns too.

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tater_salad

I don't know if this is true or not, maybe someone else with some more experience could shed some light on it. Aparantly the 'cold' shot is a common occourance. While I was in Iraq, we would re-confirm our zeros on a fairly regular basis, but before we did this, our platoon commander would have us shoot 10 rounds or so through our rifles to 'warm up our barrels,' thus having the effect that our rifles would hold that zero when warmed up as opposed to having a zero for a cold barrel, which might change slightly after more rounds were fired through it and it warmed up. Any input

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RSSZ

For CCW purposes,at 7yds(max15) the first shot(fouling shot) doesn't make a hill of beans worth of difference. Does anybody feel that their CCW will shoot so very much different, the first shot to the 7th ?? If there is any difference(probably a inch or so) with the first shot it will be from those of you that carry mags with 14 to 17 rds. This will be due to the weight of the weapon vs. recoil. Similar to shooting a heavy bullet vs. a lighter bullet.---- Go for it,but it,s not enough for me to worry 'bout.--------