Jetpilot007

Besides my trusted .38 special and .45 ACP I am also carrying Sabre Pepper Spray. Small enough to fit in your pocket and also an additonal layer of defense. Just wanted to get people's thoughts. For $14.00 cannot go wrong. Also is great for when I go to NYC since my pistols are not valid to carry there. Insane

limatunes

The varying levels of defensive response are certainly something to consider. I have had pepper spray for a long time.

True that with the adding of tools you also have to add more knowledge, understanding and wisdom as far as how and when to use one over the other but a less-than-lethal option is always good to have.

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Ram Rod

I got one of those keychain triple sprays a couple of days ago. Bought one for my best friend earlier this year, and she always carries it with her. Since my incident with the loose dog (that I ended up drawing on), and the idiot meth head downstairs in my apartment complex.....me or the GF will be carrying this. Options are always good.

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retsupt99

If you decide to carry (your brand) of pepper spray, buy an extra one and use it...how far does it spray, how hot is it...spray into a wind and if you get a blow back, can you still operate your defense system?
The time to find out these things is not the first time that you HAVE to use it to defend yourself. OMOYNV

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Jetpilot007

Apparently it shoots 8 to 10 feet. I am sure if there is a strong wind, upwind shooting may be an issue. Ouch that stings!

deadshot

Pepper spray works well most of time but does not work all the time or on all people. My son has gone through the Army gas chamber so many times that pepper spray does not affect him. So if you carry pepper spray you should prepare a “plan B” if you have to use it because it might only make them mad and not put them down or chase them off. I do carry both a .45 and spray when I walk in the evenings, with the spray mainly to ward off aggressive dogs, but I am not totally sold on it always working on animals either.

In my part of the world we have both grizzly bear and black bear roaming our woods with grizzly bear encounters becoming more common every year. The “Bear Experts” swear that pepper spray is better than a firearm in ending an attack but people are finding that bear spray is not 100% affective. The last few years ago we have had incidents where people used the spray on a bear and it did not stop or end the attack. One guy, who was bow hunting, used a whole can on a bear and he still ended up close to death and hours in surgery. He told a number of people afterward he wished he had taken his bear spray and his .44 so he would have had a “plan B” option.

It is said that the way to tell the difference of black bear scat and grizzly bear scat is that black bear scat has the remains of berries and twigs in it and smells awful. Grizzly bear scat has pieces of pack cloth, little tinkle bells and Subaru or Land Rover keys in it and smells like pepper spray.

Anyway, when I do carry pepper spray I also have in mind a “plan B”.

LM2024

We learned in class that 20% of the population is not affected or is not incapacitated by pepper spray. The other 80% of the population can be incapacitated to those who have severe reactions to pepper spray.

mercop

And about 100% of people will still be able to beat your ass if they get their hands on you before or after getting sprayed. OC does nothing against the mechanism of the attack. Be sure to spray and move, not admire your handy work. If all else fails smash their head with the can.- George

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cz2075bd

Also be sure that you replace your pepper spray every so often (double check the shelf life stated by the manufacturer, or the expiration date if it has one). Probaby 3 years is maximum effective shelf life. Things like extreme temperatures (e.g. left in your car in the summer) can shorten the life.

JerryM

I would dispute the 100%. I have a best friend who was once a member of the NM Mounted Patrol. He was assisting the State Police and State Park Rangers at a lake over a 4th of July week-end.
During the day there was a disturbance where several men were drinking and causing problems with other campers.

My friend responded alone, and was confronted by 4 men. After some exchanges one of them, a large muscular man, said he was going to whip his // and throw him in the lake. He could have done it too. He and two of his friends advanced on my buddy, and he gave each a shot of OC Foam.
He said that as soon as the foam hit them each one went to his knees and was incapacitated. They offered no more resistance and were arrested.
If it is so ineffective why do LEO carry it? Other of my LE friends claim it is effective on most people.

I have no personal experience, but I do believe that by far most people will be incapacitated at least long enough to escape or use another form of protection.

PS From my experience testing what I carry even the slight "blowback' renders me almost helpless, and if I got a shot in the face I would be completely helpless.

Regards,
Jerry