Carrying Mags- Bullets Forward or Backward - Page 5

Bones129 · August 22nd, 2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackle1886

Not sure if it's bad form or not, but with the bullets facing forward, when I bring the mag up and rotate the wrist, I can slightly angle the gun toward the mag, which is a little bit faster. It is easier to twist or rotate the gun on a horizontal plane with the wrist, as opposed to on a vertical plane. Wrists just don't point down near as easy as they rotate. Hope that isn't too confusing.

That's something I forgot to mention earlier. I put my gun at a 45 degree angle, so that the magazine doesn't have to travel as far to the magazine well.

MilitaryPower · August 22nd, 2009, 03:13 PM

Weakside, bullets forward. The important thing doing it this way IMO is to have the index finder along the front of the mag (with the bullets) to guide the mag into the mag well. Along with many other things in shooting, you do better if you point at it. Think about it. Trigger finger indexed along frame, pointing towards target. Thumbs pointed towards target. Now, in this case point the index finger towards the empty mag well (the target), and viola! Your chances of missing the mag well are drastically reduced. I also bring the gun closer to me and tilt the mag well slightly to the left. The closer things are to you the better control you have over them.

OD · August 22nd, 2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AceHi

Forward, so you can put your index finger on the front of the bullet to assist in guiding the mag to the opening - that's the way I was taught.

Exactly. Same here.
There is a quarter turn rotation of the magazine and the pistol, it's the most fluid way I've ever tried.

ranburr · August 23rd, 2009, 01:13 AM

Tubby, someone needs to teach you how to load a magazine. Your pictures are extremely awkward and I can understand why you don't see a difference.

mercop · August 23rd, 2009, 12:56 PM

For continuity loading pistols, rifles and subguns from the reaction side bullets always towards the front. Finger tip on on the bullet and into the mag well.

AzQkr · August 25th, 2009, 09:48 PM

Bullets facing forward.

As you can see in Tubby's pics, bullets toward the rear requires more elbow rotation outward, and the wrist to be overly articulated. The further your elbow is away from your body, the slower the movement.

One should not have to rely on the elbow being that far from the body to access the item, as one day you may not have the room to do so. What Tubby was showing in the pics is called a "cavalry draw"

Brownie

ExSoldier · August 25th, 2009, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercop

For continuity loading pistols, rifles and subguns from the reaction side bullets always towards the front. Finger tip on on the bullet and into the mag well.

SPOT ON CORRECT. Simple. Fast. Perfect.

psychophipps · August 26th, 2009, 12:59 AM

And the pics of the bullets-forward were incorrectly done so, yes, it sucked. You simply reach down palm-in with your index finger along the magazine holder and grasp with the lower three fingers, just like when you draw your pistol from the holster with the index finger along the frame. Index finger naturally rests on the front of the magazine and you point your finger at the bottom of your firing-hand fist until your index finger hits the bottom of your firing-hand pinky. Shove the magazine into the well passed your pinky with your palm with some authority and slide release/slingshot to finish up.

Agave · August 27th, 2009, 12:10 AM

Bullets forward. I can reload with my thumb and index finger. The plate goes to the palm. That is the correct way to load. M16, 1911, P2000, whatever.

Tubby, it looks like you are trying to use your whole hand to draw the mag. That's too much meat to metal, my friend. Just put your hand on the bottom the the mag, not all the way around it.

At work, I carry horizontal mags with the bullets down.

diverdown247 · August 27th, 2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tubby45

Bullets facing rear. Then I don't have to flip my hand over. I clear the carrier than roll the mag into the well. Twice as fast for me and easier under stress.

+1 nuf said

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August 22nd, 2009, 03:13 PM	#42
MilitaryPower Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 917	Weakside, bullets forward. The important thing doing it this way IMO is to have the index finder along the front of the mag (with the bullets) to guide the mag into the mag well. Along with many other things in shooting, you do better if you point at it. Think about it. Trigger finger indexed along frame, pointing towards target. Thumbs pointed towards target. Now, in this case point the index finger towards the empty mag well (the target), and viola! Your chances of missing the mag well are drastically reduced. I also bring the gun closer to me and tilt the mag well slightly to the left. The closer things are to you the better control you have over them. __________________ Gun control can be blamed in part for allowing 9/11 to happen. "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum" (Latin)- "If you want peace, prepare for war".

August 23rd, 2009, 12:56 PM	#45
mercop Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Posts: 608	For continuity loading pistols, rifles and subguns from the reaction side bullets always towards the front. Finger tip on on the bullet and into the mag well. __________________ 2010 MCS Calander http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgb7wjh3_299f8tncbcz

August 25th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#46
AzQkr Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In the Superstitions Posts: 1,771	Bullets facing forward. As you can see in Tubby's pics, bullets toward the rear requires more elbow rotation outward, and the wrist to be overly articulated. The further your elbow is away from your body, the slower the movement. One should not have to rely on the elbow being that far from the body to access the item, as one day you may not have the room to do so. What Tubby was showing in the pics is called a "cavalry draw" Brownie __________________ The mind is the limiting factor http://www.threatfocused.com/forums/index.php

August 27th, 2009, 12:10 AM	#49
Agave Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Tennessee Posts: 930	Bullets forward. I can reload with my thumb and index finger. The plate goes to the palm. That is the correct way to load. M16, 1911, P2000, whatever. Tubby, it looks like you are trying to use your whole hand to draw the mag. That's too much meat to metal, my friend. Just put your hand on the bottom the the mag, not all the way around it. At work, I carry horizontal mags with the bullets down. __________________ The preceding post may contain sarcasm; it's just better that way. However, it is still intended with construction and with the Love of my L-rd Y'shua. What He is doing with me KEEP YOUR LAWS OFF MY GUNS Facebook Group

August 23rd, 2009, 01:13 AM	#44
ranburr Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: TX Posts: 222	Tubby, someone needs to teach you how to load a magazine. Your pictures are extremely awkward and I can understand why you don't see a difference.

August 26th, 2009, 12:59 AM	#48
psychophipps Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington State Posts: 383	And the pics of the bullets-forward were incorrectly done so, yes, it sucked. You simply reach down palm-in with your index finger along the magazine holder and grasp with the lower three fingers, just like when you draw your pistol from the holster with the index finger along the frame. Index finger naturally rests on the front of the magazine and you point your finger at the bottom of your firing-hand fist until your index finger hits the bottom of your firing-hand pinky. Shove the magazine into the well passed your pinky with your palm with some authority and slide release/slingshot to finish up.

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