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Old August 31st, 2009, 04:20 PM   #31
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seek cover just because your doesn't mean they are. combine step 2 and 3 they can be done at the same time.
once the mag is seated release the slide manually by grasping the slide not the release button. In a real situation the slide release will be difficult to operate grabbing the slide will be much easier, as you will lose fine motor skills. Bringing the weapon in close will help when releasing the slide and control when reloading
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Old August 31st, 2009, 07:19 PM   #32
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I have used the Slide Release/Slide Stop and the current fad of "gross motor movement" by grasping the slide.

I can do either, but I get sick and tired of cutting my hand on the rear sights all the time. I'm not much into doing something because it is the current fad. I don't much care what the Jones do. If they do something that works, I will steal it. If not, they can keep it.

It was a long and legnthy conversation with a dogmatic FLETC Instructor that made me see that while the current "fad" method may work, I don't much care how someone gets around the Barn so to speak. I only care that they do manage to get around the Barn.

Those of you that can understand my analogy, . Let me just say that I don't like dogma. Please show me how it works, but also explain to me why it works.

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Old September 1st, 2009, 06:07 PM   #33
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BikerRN, how do you figure utilizing a gross motor skill is the current fad? I was taught to chamber rounds in a pistol this way 20yrs ago in the military. If you are cutting your hands on sights, you either need new sights or you need to toughen up your hand. A slide stop is just that, a slide stop.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 06:40 PM   #34
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BikerRN, how do you figure utilizing a gross motor skill is the current fad? I was taught to chamber rounds in a pistol this way 20yrs ago in the military. If you are cutting your hands on sights, you either need new sights or you need to toughen up your hand. A slide stop is just that, a slide stop.
Because I have not had a problem hitting the Slide Release Lever in over twenty years of shooting.

Bear in mind, I am referring to 1911 and Hi Power style pistols and recognize that on some other handguns using the "overhand" method, or whatever it's called can be beneficial given that the slide stop / slide release lever can be miniscule. From what I can recollect, the current way of recharging a handgun did not come into favor until plastic pistols were on scene.

The favored method now may be due to the flexability of the polymer frame as well as the fact that the Glock's Slide Stop can be darn hard to hit at times. I've not had that problem with any of my 1911's. I also find that the overhand method takes longer. For me the goal is to get the gun up and running by the most efficient means possible. For some handguns that means the Slide Release / Slide Stop and for others that means the Overhand or Pinch grip method.

As far as cutting my hands on the sights. Do the drills I run for three or four hours and even a bar of soap would cut your hands. Also, sometimes we don't get to pick the sights on our guns, and the beancounters that do get to choose aren't shooters.

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Old September 1st, 2009, 09:35 PM   #35
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Reloading in close also makes it more difficult for someone to grab your gun. With the gun close to your body they have to get closer to get their hands on it. It also gives you more options for hand-to-hand retention techniques.
hmm...yeah it also gives THEM, as in the BG, more options for H2H retention techniques...more specifically YOUR HANDS. First thing I'm going to do if I were to attack you and happen to catch you at that point, I'm going to pin your hands to your body.
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