QKShooter

Something that I have been saying for years.

This is where the part of the holster that "covers the trigger guard" causes NDs rather than prevents them.

A shooter goes to quickly reholster - the index finger is (whoops!) still inside the trigger guard - the holster pushes the index finger - the finger then pushes the trigger - the gun goes Bang!

Just FYI.

automatic slim

I just hope there's no lingering side effects. Wounds around the knee tend to cause permanent damage requiring therapy. Good luck to him.

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ccw9mm

Yup. It's the one thing about modern holster designs that worries me, a little, when paired with a gun lacking external safeties.

All in all, I tend to choose guns without such external safeties. But I try very hard to maintain competence with my specific holster/gun combination via repetitive practice with "dry" holstering and reholstering. Ain't nothing gonna guarantee it will avoid ND's, but short of finger-proofing the firearm it isn't possible to do anyway. So, you rolls the dice and you takes your chances, taking what reasonable precautions you can take.

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BradyM77

It came as quite a shock to me to hear he had shot himself. He's very safety oriented and has had alot of training as a former Airborne Ranger and elsewhere. I personally believe he holsters too quickly. He's not sure as of yet but thinks it could of been a round cooking off. He was using Wolf ammo and was drilling firing two shots reholstering and was repeating the drill over and over. He said he remembers a bang, click, start to reholster and thinking "Am I out of ammo" then the shot. He admits that most likely he accidentally shot himself but isnt ruling out the possibility of a cook off followed by reholstering too quickly.

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dukalmighty

The XD series of guns actually has 1 more safety than glocks or M&P style pistols,they have a grip safety also,so to fire the gun while holstering would require a normal grip and pulling the trigger,or having his shirt get caught in the trigger guard while shoving the gun in

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packinnova

Yeah but that's still not an issue with the holster. It's still violating one of the all important rules of keeping the booger hook off the bang switch. That holster pressing the index finger into the trigger CANNOT happen if the finger isn't in the guard and/or already on the switch. It ALWAYS comes back to RULES RULES RULES!

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I'd be really curious to see what actually happened in this case, if of course the friend is readily able to admit to all the factors involved.

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kazzaerexys

One of my club's experienced IDPA shooters managed that same trick, while reholstering after loading for a stage. (At least he had the good grace to have his oops elsewhere, and not at our local club! )

We always remind out shooters---you may draw on the clock, but you don't holster on the clock. That's true about most holstering situations, too. It's always worth taking the time to do it right.

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BradyM77

It couldnt have been booger picker hanging up on the holster simply because the entry wound was at his belt line. Either he still had his finger on the trigger and snagged some clothing or something or it was a cook off. Sadly the people with him were well behind the firing line and didnt see anything. He's still a little out of it from the pain killers I believe. The doctors said today would be when he really feels the pins and metal rod they inserted in his leg. I dont even want to imagine what that feels like.

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JAT40

Just wondering, is it possible that he re-holstered at an inward angle and the holster caught the trigger? The shot entered at "belt level" traveling down the leg.
Standing with feet shoulder width apart a downward shot would hit mid to lower thigh on most of us.
Something else to look at, cook off, finger on trigger during re-holstering or trigger snagged on holster.
See if we can find out info on his carry gear.

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BradyM77

He has a Blackhawk Serpa and a Comptac (I believe the Minotaur). Im not sure which holster he was using.

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