Friend Shot Himself Reholstering - Page 6

dgg9 · September 29th, 2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinkerinWstuff

The key is practice. Carrying with an empty chamber isn't going to do you much good when you need your gun or after using it!

Since people have used chamber empty in dangerous places for many decades, I doubt that's true.

As for practice -- reholstering is a dangerous activity, when any bit of cloth from the shirt can catch the trigger. What's there to practice? -- it's different each time you reholster.

Maybe we should ask the OP's friend what he thinks about the relative danger of NDs vs gunfights.

XD 45 · September 29th, 2009, 05:37 PM

Ouch hope he is back to it asap

larefugee · September 29th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAT40

I know the M-TAC has a area that can be a potential trigger snag.
In order for weapon to fire you have to miss completely sliding the gun along the outside of the holster witch points the shot down and away from you.
I can't speak for the Blackhawk Serpa.

I have both a MTAC and a Serpa, and in a quick test just now I could not contrive any way hook the trigger on my Glock by sliding or jamming it against either holster.

What I can picture though is having your finger indexed along the slide, swinging the gun back to holster it, the front of the gun hitting the holster and then your finger slipping off the slide and into the trigger guard as your hand rotates due to the stoppage.

Anyway, that is a good reminder to take your time while reholstering, especially if you are tempted to cut corners while running a repetitive drill.

BradyM77 · September 29th, 2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larefugee

What I can picture though is having your finger indexed along the slide, swinging the gun back to holster it, the front of the gun hitting the holster and then your finger slipping off the slide and into the trigger guard as your hand rotates due to the stoppage.

Anyway, that is a good reminder to take your time while reholstering, especially if you are tempted to cut corners while running a repetitive drill.

I agree, he's still not sure if he had a hangfire or he stupidly pulled the trigger while about to reholster. That's why I posted it here in the training section. He always reholstered too fast. There is no doubt in my mind or his that that was the cause of him getting shot. The only mystery is if it was ammo related or not.

Beans · September 29th, 2009, 10:29 PM

Draw quickly, Reholster slowly. Advice given to me a long time ago, back in the stone ages when revolvers was the norm.

gunthorp · September 29th, 2009, 10:37 PM

I hope he makes a speedy recovery. If he had a click(the loudest sound in the universe) instead of a bang, did he hold downrange, then keeping his face away from the action, eject the round to inspect it? My instincts are to tap and rack the instant I feel the click. Others do a double strike first. In his situation, I'm thinking hang fire or something hit the trigger before getting to the holster, from what I've read about the entry wound. I've experienced hang fires, dud primers, and squibs with just about every brand out there. Although few and far between, it's something that could use another thread. The M60, with all due respect for a fine implement, would win any texas chilli cook-off.

zacii · September 30th, 2009, 12:02 AM

I have noticed a bad tendency to muzzle oneself when reholstering IWB. Good case for using dry fire with draw practice.

MP45Man · September 30th, 2009, 12:22 AM

Obviously, practice is key. Many times I will holster the gun and then put the holster on my belt. I can see what is going on and have the gun pointed away from me or anything I care about in case of an ND. Just makes me feel a little better.

LibertyFreak · September 30th, 2009, 01:02 AM

Thanks for sharing the experience. It's a great thing to be reminded of! Here's wishing your buddy a speedy recovery.

Karter · October 6th, 2009, 07:05 AM

XD Service models at least are available with thumb safeties but few have them I gather. I didn't even notice my XD 45 had one till I got it home the first day, I didn't even know it was an option. I *do* like it for re-holstering. I don't often holster it though, except in my Titan Gun Vault.

My regular carry is a Kahr PM9 which of course is DAO with no active safeties, not even a trigger safty like the Glock. So I am pretty used to careful holstering anyway. With the XD what I'll do is flip the thumb safety on, holster, then flip it off. That way my draw/fire routine is identical to the Kahr's. Even with the XD's backstrap safety you have to be careful reholstering just like with a glock or Kahr.

September 29th, 2009, 05:37 PM	#52
XD 45 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SC Posts: 1,017	Ouch hope he is back to it asap __________________ XD .45, Glock 23, SIG 229 *You Stop Being A Leader When Your Men Stop Coming To You With Their Problems*

September 29th, 2009, 10:37 PM	#56
gunthorp Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Lake Superior Posts: 1,020	I hope he makes a speedy recovery. If he had a click(the loudest sound in the universe) instead of a bang, did he hold downrange, then keeping his face away from the action, eject the round to inspect it? My instincts are to tap and rack the instant I feel the click. Others do a double strike first. In his situation, I'm thinking hang fire or something hit the trigger before getting to the holster, from what I've read about the entry wound. I've experienced hang fires, dud primers, and squibs with just about every brand out there. Although few and far between, it's something that could use another thread. The M60, with all due respect for a fine implement, would win any texas chilli cook-off. __________________ Don't dither. The nick of time comes just before the moment lost.

September 30th, 2009, 12:02 AM	#57
zacii Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: arizona Posts: 317	I have noticed a bad tendency to muzzle oneself when reholstering IWB. Good case for using dry fire with draw practice. __________________ Trust in God and keep your powder dry Superduper Snubbie Thread Why 1911?

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September 29th, 2009, 10:29 PM	#55
Beans Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: AZ Territory, Border County Posts: 418	Draw quickly, Reholster slowly. Advice given to me a long time ago, back in the stone ages when revolvers was the norm.

September 30th, 2009, 12:22 AM	#58
MP45Man Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: State of Guns and Religion Posts: 835	Obviously, practice is key. Many times I will holster the gun and then put the holster on my belt. I can see what is going on and have the gun pointed away from me or anything I care about in case of an ND. Just makes me feel a little better.

September 30th, 2009, 01:02 AM	#59
LibertyFreak Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dallas-Ft. Worth Posts: 71	Thanks for sharing the experience. It's a great thing to be reminded of! Here's wishing your buddy a speedy recovery.

October 6th, 2009, 07:05 AM	#60
Karter Ex Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 116	XD Service models at least are available with thumb safeties but few have them I gather. I didn't even notice my XD 45 had one till I got it home the first day, I didn't even know it was an option. I do like it for re-holstering. I don't often holster it though, except in my Titan Gun Vault. My regular carry is a Kahr PM9 which of course is DAO with no active safeties, not even a trigger safty like the Glock. So I am pretty used to careful holstering anyway. With the XD what I'll do is flip the thumb safety on, holster, then flip it off. That way my draw/fire routine is identical to the Kahr's. Even with the XD's backstrap safety you have to be careful reholstering just like with a glock or Kahr.