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Old October 8th, 2009, 04:40 AM   #71
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Thanks for posting, it's a good reminder to us all. Draw fast, holster slowly.

As for your friend, I'm glad he survived. That's a hard lesson to learn, and I think he'll be laid up for a lot longer than 5-6 weeks! But no worries, he'll be predicting changes in the weather in no time!

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Old October 8th, 2009, 09:03 AM   #72
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As it relates to this thread; after you've used your gun, say in a self defense situation, what's the condition of the gun now? If you haven't emptied the magazine, then you are going to have a round in the chamber. Is a person now going to remove the round in the chamber before reholstering?
Is that really something worth worrying about?

First of all, most of us won't have to deal with that circumstance. Second, you're probably going to be so jacked up on adrenaline that reholstering with a live round is going to be problematic no matter what.

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My point remains, practice reholstering. If you are profeciant enough to be safe carrying a loaded firearm in public, then you should be safe reholstering a loaded gun.
Kind of a non sequitur, no? Sure, you can practice reholstering, but the fact remains it's an inherently dangerous thing to do with a live round, across many reps. Some people prefer not to.

My problem with the concept of "practice" is that it's different each time you do it. What YOU do can become smoother and more predictable, what what your GARMENTS do can never become predictable. You can practice reholstering a million times, but on the 1,000,001st time, that's the day some stray cloth catches the trigger.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 06:42 PM   #73
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Holstering

I was a radio technician for the police dept. One of the female officers got artificial 38s, which enabled her to be a better vice decoy. This also allowed carrying the model 36 in a holster just below the pair of 38s. Use your imagination!
A situation occured where she had to draw down on a perp. When the situation stabilized, and backup arrived. she holstered the weapon. There was a trigger shoe on it which caught on the holster, and it removed part of the 8s.
Afterward, she received too many disparaging comments from the male officers, and quit law enforcement.

Note: after that I became very concious about having my thumb pressing down on the exposed hammer while holstering.

Had another cop who was on a stakeout. The shotgun was nounted between the bucket seats on the floor. He got to fittling with it. The last user of the car jacked a round into the chamber and did not clear it. So, it went off and blew up the radio, thru the firewall, took apart the carburator, and left thru the hood.
His supervisor told him next time, play with his "thing" instead, if it goes off, it won't kill anyone.

Point is: even trained (?) professionals can have a bad day.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:48 PM   #74
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Is that really something worth worrying about?

First of all, most of us won't have to deal with that circumstance. Second, you're probably going to be so jacked up on adrenaline that reholstering with a live round is going to be problematic no matter what.



Kind of a non sequitur, no? Sure, you can practice reholstering, but the fact remains it's an inherently dangerous thing to do with a live round, across many reps. Some people prefer not to.

My problem with the concept of "practice" is that it's different each time you do it. What YOU do can become smoother and more predictable, what what your GARMENTS do can never become predictable. You can practice reholstering a million times, but on the 1,000,001st time, that's the day some stray cloth catches the trigger.


Must be one heck of a shirt to pull a trigger.
Think about it.
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Must be one heck of a shirt to pull a trigger.
Happens all the time.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 10:17 PM   #76
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Glad he is ok, during a tactical pistol shoot last weekend I realized I had holstered my Sig still cocked! I am always checking the hammer, pulled it out gently and decock it. I always look when I am reholstering. I found on my M&P that I could actually get the trigger to fire if I slid the gun at a 45 degree angle over the lip of my low wall Serpa, any angle less than that it would not catch. Frankly I don't have a lot of faith in Glock or M&P trigger safeties, anything that catches the trigger is likely to trip them as well. For the XD I guess he must have had the grip safety depressed as well. We I hope he get over this with nothing longterm more than a bruised ego.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:30 AM   #77
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funny^^, i was just going to say I really like having a sig cause every time before i reholster i think to myself, and have trained myself to de-cock. I suppose, because the gun is set up like that, it makes you think. but it's all practice, practice. Rule of thumb I follow is, Never have your finger on the trigger unless you're absolutely sure you want to kill what's behind your targets.
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Must be one heck of a shirt to pull a trigger.
Think about it.
Happens all the time.
Yes. While infrequent, and while training to avoid the consequences helps, if the shirt gets hung up on the finger it creates and pocket that can, when released, hang up on the trigger as the gun is being re-holstered. Perhaps three times in the past year, I've hooked the index finger on the hem of the shirt and had to restart in order avoid what could have let to a discharge.
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