Kubaton - Page 2

Bark'n · October 30th, 2009, 09:41 PM

I carry a 120 lumen LED flashlight which is just a little short and slightly fatter than a regulation Kubaton which does double duty as one.

I've learned to manipulate almost as well as the genuine article. So I figure I get about 90% effectiveness using the flashlight and one less item to carry.

I've got the Kubaton training manual as well as John Peter's excellent book Defensive Tactics With Flashlights

Bm7b5 · October 30th, 2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by grifft

Sure it is a practical benefit to a civilian if used properly and sometimes you can not get away from physical confrontations. It is only good for close quarters defense.(Not trying to sell them) I was carrying about four weeks ago and I went into a fast mart to get a drink and when I went out to get in my truck and out of no where a guy was standing in front of me and asked for some money. Told him that I did not work all my life to give it away. Get a job and he then grabbed me by my shirt. I had the kubaton in my hand first hit him in his sternum then when he let go and leaned over a little I stuck as hard as I could on the collar bone. He ran like you know what. Perfect example in a bad situation

Ok, you've convinced me that I want to at least get familiar with the kubaton and see what I can do with it. Thanks.

Superhouse 15 · October 31st, 2009, 12:13 AM

My confrontation:
I was carrying a De-Jammer as a Kubotan-style weapon tucked in my belt with my keys. I had a 1911 IWB and a BUG, a NAA .22mag. I was carrying a Spyderco in a pocket. I was on a payphone when a babbling drunk came up and started trying to talk to me. I waved him away and he reached out to grab my shirt. I put him into an armlock, turned him around and shoved him away from me. He stumbled the walked away babbling to himself. The guns and knife would have been too much for the situation. I had a hand tied up with the payphone at the time and was a little slow to disengage from it.

billdeserthills · October 31st, 2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by threefeathers

Absolutely. Here is a pic of Mas teaching the Kubotan at LFI III in September of 09.

OMG, I think I met the dude wearing the quilt at an Open Carry dinner!

threefeathers · October 31st, 2009, 03:56 AM

Quilt???
The young man in the Kilt is a Oregon LEO. There is a huge population of Scots there and he was getting ready for the Scottish Games.

SIGP250 · October 31st, 2009, 05:23 AM

I don't know. This is presumably a non-lethal weapon for self defense. I must admit I don't always carry where it is illegal. This tool seems to be legal in most states however I doubt that I woud ever carry one. Personally where I can carry a pistol, I do. I also carry a large Mag-lite. It can do as much damage as a baseball bat at close range after you blind the assailant first with a powerful LED beam. IMO It is no different than learning how to crack a BG in the head with the butt end of a pool cue. Actually, I normally prefer to punch a BG with an uppercut to the bottom of the nose and then the throat. A roll of nickles in you palm and gloves can make a difference and you won't end up going to jail.

Ricebrnr · October 31st, 2009, 09:40 AM

Saw a Sharkie at the gun show last weekend. My friend's son (16) was wondering what good it was for. I explained the idea of Kubatons to him and that the Sharkie made for a nice covert one....blank stares....

I told him to grab my wrist and then immediately put him in a wrist lock.

He's a believer now.

Joint manipulations take some training. Striking at pressure points and vital targets somewhat less so. As my TKD teacher taught me, it's always nice to have many arrows in the quiver. It also gives you options in the continuum of force.

October 30th, 2009, 09:41 PM	#11
Bark'n VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 4,298	I carry a 120 lumen LED flashlight which is just a little short and slightly fatter than a regulation Kubaton which does double duty as one. I've learned to manipulate almost as well as the genuine article. So I figure I get about 90% effectiveness using the flashlight and one less item to carry. I've got the Kubaton training manual as well as John Peter's excellent book Defensive Tactics With Flashlights __________________ -Bark'n Semper Fi "The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, will prey on those of us who without one, would surely perish."

October 31st, 2009, 05:23 AM	#16
SIGP250 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ST. LOUIS, MO Posts: 418	I don't know. This is presumably a non-lethal weapon for self defense. I must admit I don't always carry where it is illegal. This tool seems to be legal in most states however I doubt that I woud ever carry one. Personally where I can carry a pistol, I do. I also carry a large Mag-lite. It can do as much damage as a baseball bat at close range after you blind the assailant first with a powerful LED beam. IMO It is no different than learning how to crack a BG in the head with the butt end of a pool cue. Actually, I normally prefer to punch a BG with an uppercut to the bottom of the nose and then the throat. A roll of nickles in you palm and gloves can make a difference and you won't end up going to jail. __________________ If you understand, things are just as they are... If you do not understand, things are just as they are.... - Zen Saying

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October 31st, 2009, 12:13 AM	#13
Superhouse 15 Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,509	My confrontation: I was carrying a De-Jammer as a Kubotan-style weapon tucked in my belt with my keys. I had a 1911 IWB and a BUG, a NAA .22mag. I was carrying a Spyderco in a pocket. I was on a payphone when a babbling drunk came up and started trying to talk to me. I waved him away and he reached out to grab my shirt. I put him into an armlock, turned him around and shoved him away from me. He stumbled the walked away babbling to himself. The guns and knife would have been too much for the situation. I had a hand tied up with the payphone at the time and was a little slow to disengage from it.

October 31st, 2009, 03:56 AM	#15
threefeathers Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 525	Quilt??? The young man in the Kilt is a Oregon LEO. There is a huge population of Scots there and he was getting ready for the Scottish Games.

October 31st, 2009, 09:40 AM	#17
Ricebrnr Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 95	Saw a Sharkie at the gun show last weekend. My friend's son (16) was wondering what good it was for. I explained the idea of Kubatons to him and that the Sharkie made for a nice covert one....blank stares.... I told him to grab my wrist and then immediately put him in a wrist lock. He's a believer now. Joint manipulations take some training. Striking at pressure points and vital targets somewhat less so. As my TKD teacher taught me, it's always nice to have many arrows in the quiver. It also gives you options in the continuum of force.