Lessons learned in the middle of the night - Page 2

Paco · November 5th, 2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BikerRN

Since this alarm was triggered because of some sort of phone cable problem, if I'm reading correctly in my sleep deprived state, do you have some sort of handheld portable communication device to go with the gun, as well as an illumination device.

Biker

Yes, I keep my S&W flashlight in the top drawer and my 2 cell phones (work and Personal) on the nightstand. My Wife has a flashlight and her cell phone on her nightstand as well.

I have also gotten a quote for a GSM backup device for my alarm, so the signal actually makes it to the dispatch if it happens again.

Now all I need is good advice on a 1 gun safe that all I have to do is touch to open, like a biometric or something.

BikerRN · November 5th, 2009, 03:13 PM

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Now all I need is good advice on a 1 gun safe that all I have to do is touch to open, like a biometric or something.

Sorry, can't help you there.

My safe is bolted to the floor and accomodates more guns than one. One of my Home Defense guns is between the matress and the box spring, if I'm not wearing it. Another is on the floor, under the bed. The third stays in the pocket of the pants I was wearing that night, located on the chair in the bedroom.

Biker

NCConcealed · November 5th, 2009, 05:44 PM

Paco, wouldn't waste your money on the biometric. Most biometric's that the average guy can afford (less than 3000) if your hand is a little bit wet or a little dirty they will not work. With the new ICF walls and such safe rooms are easy to build now and you could even with a good architect connect the safe rooms together.

tpurdin · November 11th, 2009, 12:18 AM

is your alarm running through the cable company's phone line? through a cable modem? if so, do you have a backup method of calling out? What I am trying to say is this "If your cable is cut, you have no phone, which means the alarm will not call out" even though you may have a breach and the alarm is sounding there is nobody responding. I have mine setup on GSM which uses cell service so even if power is off and phone lines are cut it will still call out

BruceGibson · November 11th, 2009, 12:24 AM

Very good advice. Thank you for the wake-up call.

searcher 45 · November 11th, 2009, 12:37 AM

Paco: At least you have a plan and when the time came you and entire family executed the plan. Well done, next time it will even go smother.

Question, can you trip the alarm for a practice for the whole family?

retsupt99 · November 11th, 2009, 07:05 AM

Paco,

Is there not a tall dresser drawer that you can tuck a pistol into for the night? Messing with a safe while an intruder happened to be entering your bedroom could be a real problem.
The gun could be locked during the day, but readily available 'in the dark'.
Curious...

ret

H8SPVMT · November 12th, 2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retsupt99

Paco,

Is there not a tall dresser drawer that you can tuck a pistol into for the night? Messing with a safe while an intruder happened to be entering your bedroom could be a real problem.
The gun could be locked during the day, but readily available 'in the dark'.
Curious...

ret

Totally on the same page here with you.

As a safe man I can't describe all the problems that could occur here, in the middle of the night, especially with elocks.

The only thing between me and my firearm at night is air and opportunity... (Stored in the top dresser drawer with reloads).

CCWINNC · November 12th, 2009, 09:23 AM

Having the same incident..a few lessons i learned. With all my bedrooms on the second floor I opted for a weapon mounted light. Our plan is for me to hold the stairway as the wife gets the kids to our room and into the bathroom and bunkers in. The master bath is the most out of the line of fire we can get.

The stairway is s choke point, and the only way to reach us so we can hold the fort from the top until the help arrives. The change to the weapon mounted light was driven from the first false alarm. I had a hand held flashlight and would have to use my flashlight hand to escort (push the little ones across the hall behind me). With our plan the family is always behind me so having full accountability any one illuminated downstairs is considered the BG.

Cell phone on the night stand a must...
I also did not sleep for a few hours after the incident...

As hair raising as it was I think it was a good live action scenario to learn from.

JonInNY · November 12th, 2009, 09:56 AM

I think you did well Paco, and I'm glad it was only a gremlin. It's good to have a plan, and yes, I think anyone would be slightly nervous if this happened to them. My bedroom safe has 5 buttons that are far enough apart that I can feel the difference, even in the dark.

BTW, I leave my bedroom safe OPEN at night, and I close it and lock it when I leave the house. Don't know if that's an option for you, but you may wish to consider.

November 11th, 2009, 12:24 AM	#15
BruceGibson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northwest Florida...The "Redneck Riviera" Posts: 805	Very good advice. Thank you for the wake-up call. __________________ "He who is silent is deemed to consent." www.GibsonGunleather.com

November 11th, 2009, 07:05 AM	#17
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,799	Paco, Is there not a tall dresser drawer that you can tuck a pistol into for the night? Messing with a safe while an intruder happened to be entering your bedroom could be a real problem. The gun could be locked during the day, but readily available 'in the dark'. Curious... ret __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

November 12th, 2009, 09:23 AM	#19
CCWINNC Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NC Posts: 183	Having the same incident..a few lessons i learned. With all my bedrooms on the second floor I opted for a weapon mounted light. Our plan is for me to hold the stairway as the wife gets the kids to our room and into the bathroom and bunkers in. The master bath is the most out of the line of fire we can get. The stairway is s choke point, and the only way to reach us so we can hold the fort from the top until the help arrives. The change to the weapon mounted light was driven from the first false alarm. I had a hand held flashlight and would have to use my flashlight hand to escort (push the little ones across the hall behind me). With our plan the family is always behind me so having full accountability any one illuminated downstairs is considered the BG. Cell phone on the night stand a must... I also did not sleep for a few hours after the incident... As hair raising as it was I think it was a good live action scenario to learn from. __________________ CCWINNC HK P2000 .40SW Para Ord Tac 4 .45acp XD 9 Service XD 9 SC Taurus 651 .357 mag

November 12th, 2009, 09:56 AM	#20
JonInNY VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mid-Hudson Valley New York State Posts: 3,468	I think you did well Paco, and I'm glad it was only a gremlin. It's good to have a plan, and yes, I think anyone would be slightly nervous if this happened to them. My bedroom safe has 5 buttons that are far enough apart that I can feel the difference, even in the dark. BTW, I leave my bedroom safe OPEN at night, and I close it and lock it when I leave the house. Don't know if that's an option for you, but you may wish to consider. __________________ "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." -- Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8

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November 5th, 2009, 05:44 PM	#13
NCConcealed Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hope Mills, NC Posts: 55	Paco, wouldn't waste your money on the biometric. Most biometric's that the average guy can afford (less than 3000) if your hand is a little bit wet or a little dirty they will not work. With the new ICF walls and such safe rooms are easy to build now and you could even with a good architect connect the safe rooms together.

November 11th, 2009, 12:18 AM	#14
tpurdin Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: cincinnati Posts: 91	is your alarm running through the cable company's phone line? through a cable modem? if so, do you have a backup method of calling out? What I am trying to say is this "If your cable is cut, you have no phone, which means the alarm will not call out" even though you may have a breach and the alarm is sounding there is nobody responding. I have mine setup on GSM which uses cell service so even if power is off and phone lines are cut it will still call out

November 11th, 2009, 12:37 AM	#16
searcher 45 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TEXAS Posts: 436	Paco: At least you have a plan and when the time came you and entire family executed the plan. Well done, next time it will even go smother. Question, can you trip the alarm for a practice for the whole family?