Defend yourself on a plane - Page 12

SC Tiger · June 10th, 2009, 05:55 PM

A salesman at a local sporting goods/outdoor store tells me he always carries a Surefire flashlight when he flies - the one with the scalloped bezel. If used right it could be a formitable weapon.

CVance · June 19th, 2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TapRackBang

The odds of a terrorist trying to take a plane are the stimulis plan (2 trillion) to one. The rules changed and they know it. They can stand up and yell with a machine gun and the rest of the plane will still stand up and stomp them.

A problem on the plane will be with a Adam Henry passenger or and intoxicated one. Requiring restraint not stabbing them in the neck with a Bic.

And for anyone not familiar with a Brachial stun, here is a sample.
This works I've used it real world.

YouTube - pimp knocked out by karate instructor

This has been my feeling ever since 9/11. If the passengers in all four planes knew what was going to come down the terrorists wouldn't have had a chance.

njslim · June 19th, 2009, 10:33 PM

Best weapon for putting someone down is a sap or slapper - lead or
steel shot in a leather pouch. Hit someone upside of head with
these will put lights out...

Problem is they are very illegal - even many police departments
forbid them because of "Gestapo" image

Legal variant is coins (quarters) in a large change purse. Can be
carried on person. Used as fistload to increase force of punch or
nestled in palm of hand to deliver slap to side of head will stun
most people.

YouTube - Coin Blackjack from www.knuckledusterbook.com leather sap impact waepons

TerriLi · June 19th, 2009, 10:43 PM

I like all of the ideas here, still there is a reason I wear steel toe boots when flying.
Also I key holder like for climbing can be used as a set of Brassknuckles.

Thanis · June 20th, 2009, 02:34 AM

I was in HI a while back (month or so). Before I went, I purchased 2 chaep $1.00 pocket knives from my local army / navy surplus. Cheap plastic with around 1.5" metal blade. I know not much, but going from armed to unarmed, I wanted something, and in case it was conficated, I did not want to lose a good knife.

I had one in my checked luggage. During travel via plane I carried one in my pocket. When I went through security, I emptied my pockets, and not once (including trips between islands) did a problem arise. I was even patted down, emptied pockets, carry on searched, once at the terminal (from Portland to Honolulu). Other then my being postponed entry, I still own 2 cheap pocket knifes.

I'm not sure if they ever noticed the knife, and I don't know if what I did was illegal or not. Not suggesting anyone do anything illegal, just providing my experience.

Judo · August 10th, 2009, 02:33 AM

Take Judo, and slam the them headfirst into the deck. Lights out.

alexcantslee · August 10th, 2009, 04:35 AM

This works for more than just planes.

10 eyed steel toed Doc Martins with the laces threaded "Ladder Style" There no lace hanging out this way. Its not ideal for every situation but I like knowing I can kick someone and kick them real hard if I need to.

Alex!

T. Kanaley · August 10th, 2009, 11:12 AM

With its heavy steel buckle, The Wilderness belt would make an excellent flail. The titanium buckled model probably not so much.

I wear mine when traveling all the time. I take it off and put it in the basket with my watch when checking in and TSA never gives it a second look.

T

msgt/ret · August 10th, 2009, 11:56 AM

After reading all the posts lots of good suggestions and really drives home the statement “The mind is the greatest weapon of all”. Assess the situation and use what is available to take control. Even something as simple as throwing a cup of coffee in the face of an attacker may disorientate or incapacitate them long enough to take control of the situation.

ExSoldier · August 10th, 2009, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctr

Also, a couple of rolled up magazines can do some real damage.

That's the one my Aikido Sensei taught me when a couple of mouthy punks threatened me at my former inner city high school. I've since moved even deeper into the 'Hood to teach high school.

This is what I was taught: Take a section of newspaper and roll it up like you were going to swat a fly. Then bend it double and hold it in your fist. It should allow your fingers to close all the way around it. Where the crease appears there will be a number of small points or knobs. That is the striking surface. You'll find that the paper is now a sturdy club capable of literally splitting skulls. Aforementioned are the knobby sort of points, at the fold. These rip flesh nicely if you strike along the face.

A variation or should I say an evolution of the Kubaton is called the Kerambit. It's an innocous looking little piece of plastic that looks like it's shaped into a broad "L" shape with a hole in one end. IMPACT KERAMBIT - SHOMER-TEC Termed a "travel wrench" it looks like anything BUT a weapon. Trust me, even without specific training in it's employment, you could wipe out just about anybody. Especially somebody who takes you for an easy mark.

June 19th, 2009, 10:43 PM	#114
TerriLi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 836	I like all of the ideas here, still there is a reason I wear steel toe boots when flying. Also I key holder like for climbing can be used as a set of Brassknuckles. __________________ I know not what this "overkill" means.

June 20th, 2009, 02:34 AM	#115
Thanis Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MI Posts: 1,704	I was in HI a while back (month or so). Before I went, I purchased 2 chaep $1.00 pocket knives from my local army / navy surplus. Cheap plastic with around 1.5" metal blade. I know not much, but going from armed to unarmed, I wanted something, and in case it was conficated, I did not want to lose a good knife. I had one in my checked luggage. During travel via plane I carried one in my pocket. When I went through security, I emptied my pockets, and not once (including trips between islands) did a problem arise. I was even patted down, emptied pockets, carry on searched, once at the terminal (from Portland to Honolulu). Other then my being postponed entry, I still own 2 cheap pocket knifes. I'm not sure if they ever noticed the knife, and I don't know if what I did was illegal or not. Not suggesting anyone do anything illegal, just providing my experience. __________________ NRA Member S&W 642 (no-lock) with .38 Spl +P 135 GR Gold GDHP Glock G31 & G33 with .357 Sig 125 GR. SXT Winchester Ranger

August 10th, 2009, 04:35 AM	#117
alexcantslee Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 75	Boots This works for more than just planes. 10 eyed steel toed Doc Martins with the laces threaded "Ladder Style" There no lace hanging out this way. Its not ideal for every situation but I like knowing I can kick someone and kick them real hard if I need to. Alex!

August 10th, 2009, 11:12 AM	#118
T. Kanaley Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 84	With its heavy steel buckle, The Wilderness belt would make an excellent flail. The titanium buckled model probably not so much. I wear mine when traveling all the time. I take it off and put it in the basket with my watch when checking in and TSA never gives it a second look. T __________________ Milt Sparks Holsters, Inc. www.miltsparks.com Second Best is not an option

August 10th, 2009, 11:56 AM	#119
msgt/ret Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,020	After reading all the posts lots of good suggestions and really drives home the statement *“The mind is the greatest weapon of all”*. Assess the situation and use what is available to take control. Even something as simple as throwing a cup of coffee in the face of an attacker may disorientate or incapacitate them long enough to take control of the situation. __________________ When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way."

June 10th, 2009, 05:55 PM	#111
SC Tiger Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 99	A salesman at a local sporting goods/outdoor store tells me he always carries a Surefire flashlight when he flies - the one with the scalloped bezel. If used right it could be a formitable weapon.

June 19th, 2009, 10:33 PM	#113
njslim Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: new joosy Posts: 18	Best weapon for putting someone down is a sap or slapper - lead or steel shot in a leather pouch. Hit someone upside of head with these will put lights out... Problem is they are very illegal - even many police departments forbid them because of "Gestapo" image Legal variant is coins (quarters) in a large change purse. Can be carried on person. Used as fistload to increase force of punch or nestled in palm of hand to deliver slap to side of head will stun most people. YouTube - Coin Blackjack from www.knuckledusterbook.com leather sap impact waepons

August 10th, 2009, 02:33 AM	#116
Judo Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 26	Take Judo, and slam the them headfirst into the deck. Lights out.

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